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haha I get ya.. I have given up having this convo in real life as too many people spout what they read in the sun as true fact and total gospel and cant see past it. I know its about sifting through the crap, as with all decisions. For something thats quite important it never fails to astound me how many people simply dont and wont give a sh*t. Was the same for the general election.

Well your vote is going to be biased, probably, as it will most likely be whats best for you..

If there was not bias there would not be democracy...

Lol Mos.. totally.. although eenie meenie minie mo is hardly a biased opinion

Look..if blair says we should stay in..you know we should leave with all haste..ah hem

I'd say Britain would overall benefit from leaving. But to *actually* go ahead and do it?? That's scary!

Yeah. The bias opinions are good, as along as you accept the other opinions, and are not an asshole about other peoples...

Darkness is also scary, for the same reason, we don't know what it hides.

'Scary'-ness is literally what drives markets. Uncertainty hurts economies whether or not it's correct. In this particular case the very act of such a sudden jump could be the very largest issue.

I dunno. I honestly think we will be ok weather we stay or leave.

I can't imagine the country to literally fall if we leave... I suppose we don't really know till it actually happens.

Leaving makes no sense, every plan I have read post brexit is either unrealistic or involves renegotiating some super duper trade pack with them. If that proved to be the case not much would change, except now the UK would lose any capability to change EU law but still be widely effected by it.

The country won't 'literally fall' and be in pandemonium - it'll just be weaker economically.

With the way this goverment wants to be and how one of the pros of leaving is supposed to be not needing human rights laws i think its better to stay

eh ??? think that is showing classic early signs of The Guardian overdose. We helped set the thing up (WWII) but it like most EU stuff has gone nutz now

Human rights is completely misused in the EU debate, it does not really have anything to do with a single government or the EU, its a global concept were every human on the planet has the same rights. The UK os not going to remove workers rights and we set up and are part of the European courts. Membership of this has nothing to do with the EU membership. We will also carry on following the UNs definition of human rights as a permanent member.

Agreed but when a case can take 5 to 10 years to bring before the HR court and await outcome & appeals it makes a mockery when trying to apply common sense to fairly straight forward matters. Criminals can't be deported, Prisoners demand their voting rights in prison - all bollox

just look at the mockery abu hamza made of the human rights laws i think they should atleast be ammended to stop it being abused like that

Don't get me wrong I think a lot of EU stuff is a good idea in principle but lately it has gone nutz - bent/straight bananas carrots, exploiting the loopholes etc... I still think lets consider getting out, then EU gets a kick up its own ar$e, sorts out its crap or it goes under, then maybe after it gets straightened out for everybody then maybe we can consider rejoining a reformed EU at some stage - but atm its getting more & more bollox tbh

As said I'm out and always have been - lets see once n for all if the world collapses. sort out EU & UK then maybe see how it goes. But if we stay for more of the same we will have no chance to change anything and just have to keep going with same ol same ol' and moaning about it but not have the balls to try something else. Up to all how you vote but I know I want to give it a shot