Novritsch THERMAL anti fog

[Reidfc]

Has anyone used the thermal lense anti fog?

I’m considering mask solutions goggles with the fan or the thermal lense as I have some pyramex goggles that the lense fits.

I really struggle with fog as my face gets quite sweaty.

My current pair (5th pair of different brands) are the best I’ve found but still tent to fog up with condensation as I get sweaty towards the end of the day and face protection is never an option as it would fog up which is annoying so I just wear a mouth gaurd to protect my pearly whites haha!

Any input would be great before I pull the trigger on the thermal lenses…

 

[Rickwales]

I share your pain. I'm using the exfog combined with cat crap wax with my glasses under a full mask. It works too a point. I find taking off layers makes a huge difference.
One of the lads at my site has the thermal lenses and was raving about it. He also wears glasses.

 

[Reidfc]

I share your pain. I'm using the exfog combined with cat crap wax with my glasses under a full mask. It works too a point. I find taking off layers makes a huge difference.
One of the lads at my site has the thermal lenses and was raving about it. He also wears glasses.

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Give them a go and let me know!

 

[Rickwales]

Give them a go and let me know!

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Spent all my money on replicas, skint now...

 

[Reidfc]

Spent all my money on replicas, skint now...

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What about your friends?

 

[FreeUsername]

I've only used the ExFog and Novritsch's AntiFog units, haven't tried the thermal lens yet.
The Novritsch unit works perfect for me even when it's freezing outside. I've gotten a couple mates into it as well and none of us have had any issues with them yet.
For me (and I sweat a decent amount) I usually keep it around 50% which does me for 90% of the year, and only need to crack it up to 100% when it's really cold. And this is with face protection that blows half of what I breathe out upwards.
The ExFog is weaker than the Novritsch unit and wasn't able to keep up when it started to get cold or if I was moving too much.

The AntiFog battery lasts all day for me with it being anywhere from 50% to 100% (sometimes I just stick it on 100% and leave it there even if it's not needed, only turning it off for breaks and lunch).
If you are paranoid about battery life though, giving it a quick little charge during break/lunch will guarantee that it won't run out of battery throughout the day.

For me, the Novritsch AntiFog is a 9/10 with the only concern being that the first release/gen1 was able to be shoot through with a BB at close range. Gen2 fixed that, but I still have it in a pouch on my helmet anyway just because I don't like having to buy twice. I haven't even had any problems with it in the rain, it's soldiered its way through without any issues.
The ExFog would be a 6/10 as I was guaranteed to fog up if it was starting to get cold or I was moving too much, even on max power. It worked well if I was being a good bush wookie.

From what I've seen and heard though, Novritsch's new thermal layer does work well, but it's not waterproof and depending on how high you set the temperature you can run out in 6/7 hours (take off 10% of their claimed battery life from what I've heard).

IMO, I would happily stick with the AntiFog unit from Novritsch. It works well, it's tried and tested, very well regarded by a lot of people, and there's a lot of people using it now.

 

[Impulse]

I've been wondering how well that new thermal antifog works when using corrective lenses. My assumption is that it wouldn't work because it's heating the goggles, but not the inserts?

 

[The_Lord_Poncho]

I've been wondering how well that new thermal antifog works when using corrective lenses. My assumption is that it wouldn't work because it's heating the goggles, but not the inserts?

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That's a fair assumption - It works like the back windscreen demister in a car.

There was a fellow using the new type at my site a month or so back - absolutely raving about it - said it worked perfectly, and liked how silent it was. I noticed that he velcro'd the battery onto the patch on the side of his shirt so didn't need to have some kind of headwear set up.

 

[Reidfc]

I've only used the ExFog and Novritsch's AntiFog units, haven't tried the thermal lens yet.
The Novritsch unit works perfect for me even when it's freezing outside. I've gotten a couple mates into it as well and none of us have had any issues with them yet.
For me (and I sweat a decent amount) I usually keep it around 50% which does me for 90% of the year, and only need to crack it up to 100% when it's really cold. And this is with face protection that blows half of what I breathe out upwards.
The ExFog is weaker than the Novritsch unit and wasn't able to keep up when it started to get cold or if I was moving too much.

The AntiFog battery lasts all day for me with it being anywhere from 50% to 100% (sometimes I just stick it on 100% and leave it there even if it's not needed, only turning it off for breaks and lunch).
If you are paranoid about battery life though, giving it a quick little charge during break/lunch will guarantee that it won't run out of battery throughout the day.

For me, the Novritsch AntiFog is a 9/10 with the only concern being that the first release/gen1 was able to be shoot through with a BB at close range. Gen2 fixed that, but I still have it in a pouch on my helmet anyway just because I don't like having to buy twice. I haven't even had any problems with it in the rain, it's soldiered its way through without any issues.
The ExFog would be a 6/10 as I was guaranteed to fog up if it was starting to get cold or I was moving too much, even on max power. It worked well if I was being a good bush wookie.

From what I've seen and heard though, Novritsch's new thermal layer does work well, but it's not waterproof and depending on how high you set the temperature you can run out in 6/7 hours (take off 10% of their claimed battery life from what I've heard).

IMO, I would happily stick with the AntiFog unit from Novritsch. It works well, it's tried and tested, very well regarded by a lot of people, and there's a lot of people using it now.

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I don’t like the bulk to the Ex-fog and the noise, was considering the mask solutions antifog fan mask, you ever seen them being used?

 

[Reidfc]

That's a fair assumption - It works like the back windscreen demister in a car.

There was a fellow using the new type at my site a month or so back - absolutely raving about it - said it worked perfectly, and liked how silent it was. I noticed that he velcro'd the battery onto the patch on the side of his shirt so didn't need to have some kind of headwear set up.

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Oh this is a good idea!

I have a little shoulder pouch I could put it in, just scared if a BB hit a battery would be disaster!

 

[FreeUsername]

I don’t like the bulk to the Ex-fog and the noise, was considering the mask solutions antifog fan mask, you ever seen them being used?

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ExFog is quite noisy. Supposedly it really affects ear pro with sound boosting.
With the AntiFog you can hear it if you're in a place where it's dead silent and you've got to listen in for it.

I've seen a couple people with the Mask Solutions at sites, never asked them about it though.
But the goggles are the exact same as what Novritsch uses on his site (specifically the "AntiFog Safety Goggles – Large") and works on the same concept. The goggles are "Pyramex VG2" I believe.
With Nov's AntiFog, you have the battery pack and a decently sized laptop fan inside there which pushes the air out through the tubes and into your goggles at the top, and then the bit that goes into the goggles then splits that air and directs it to in front of where your eyes look out of the goggles.
With the Mask Solutions, it has a very small fan at the top of the goggles (the exact same spot as where Nov's air goes into) that just blows air downwards (basically where your nose would be).
It also looks like the Mask Solutions wouldn't be very waterproof at all, since the fan is directly exposed, and it requires you to attach a barrel connector to the fan in the goggles, then that wire to the battery pack. There's multiple points of failure for water to get to the electrics.
The Mask Solutions "Anti-Fog Full Face Mask 2.0" appears to be a set of "Pyramex VG2" with what looks to be a generic cheap mesh face protector attached to it. You can do this very easily yourself without having to pay the extra £32.
For the £126 for the Mask Solutions Full Face, it'd be a decent amount cheaper to buy the Novritsch AntiFog, the goggles, and a full face mask yourself. And you'll probably have a better experience, a longer life for the system, and won't have to worry about the weather.
£96 for a 3D printed fan mount in a pair of relatively cheap goggles and a hassle of wires, not my cup of tea to be honest with you.

 

[Reidfc]

ExFog is quite noisy. Supposedly it really affects ear pro with sound boosting.
With the AntiFog you can hear it if you're in a place where it's dead silent and you've got to listen in for it.

I've seen a couple people with the Mask Solutions at sites, never asked them about it though.
But the goggles are the exact same as what Novritsch uses on his site (specifically the "AntiFog Safety Goggles – Large") and works on the same concept. The goggles are "Pyramex VG2" I believe.
With Nov's AntiFog, you have the battery pack and a decently sized laptop fan inside there which pushes the air out through the tubes and into your goggles at the top, and then the bit that goes into the goggles then splits that air and directs it to in front of where your eyes look out of the goggles.
With the Mask Solutions, it has a very small fan at the top of the goggles (the exact same spot as where Nov's air goes into) that just blows air downwards (basically where your nose would be).
It also looks like the Mask Solutions wouldn't be very waterproof at all, since the fan is directly exposed, and it requires you to attach a barrel connector to the fan in the goggles, then that wire to the battery pack. There's multiple points of failure for water to get to the electrics.
The Mask Solutions "Anti-Fog Full Face Mask 2.0" appears to be a set of "Pyramex VG2" with what looks to be a generic cheap mesh face protector attached to it. You can do this very easily yourself without having to pay the extra £32.
For the £126 for the Mask Solutions Full Face, it'd be a decent amount cheaper to buy the Novritsch AntiFog, the goggles, and a full face mask yourself. And you'll probably have a better experience, a longer life for the system, and won't have to worry about the weather.
£96 for a 3D printed fan mount in a pair of relatively cheap goggles and a hassle of wires, not my cup of tea to be honest with you.

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I think I might have to try the thermal lense as I have pyramex goggles that they’ll fit lying around and then if they don’t work I guess the best and safest bet to avoid spending pointless money would be a larger fan system like you mention.

Thanks for the reply!