AEG or Gas?

[Raggedy_man]

Afternoon all, a question for all my learned friends on here.

In your personal opinions and experiences which is the most fun for your main weapon?

What are the advantages and pitfalls of each?

As I have been playing awhile now I yearn to feel more immersed in my game play experience. One of my ideas was firing someones GBBR and I'm hooked on how it felt but after seeing the amount of kit he had to haul around it has given me second thoughts.

As ever, any help is much appreciated.

 

[proffrink]

Yeh, you gotta be committed to your gun if you're going gas. Lots of maintenance on the older systems and magazines plus many of them requiring significant upgrading to get them functioning right. Then there's the issue of the winter and having to consider CO2 or an HPA tapped magazine for it to perform well. Also there's the cost of gas itself - propane is a cheaper option, but certainly lots of green gasses can get expensive.

Personally I love them and haven't owned an AEG in years but I'd caution anyone thinking of getting into it all the same. They can be more expensive to run (not all of them, but as a rule of thumb) to begin with: If I were starting today I'd certainly go down the route of Tippmann (their gen 2 is coming out soon™) or GHK as those are the newest and most efficient systems out there. GHK in particular are very nice looking guns and their magazines are the best in the business right now.

HPA is - I think - a better call if you have the money. The upfront costs are pretty astronomical for something with blow back (e.g. Escort or Daytona Gun) or even the rig just so you can HPA tap an existing GBBR, but getting a whole Scuba tank refilled for £3.50 is great. Not having the worry of winter looming is also good. Again though, cash is the limiting factor as it is with many things in airsoft. Spend as much as you're comfortable with, but I'd say set aside as much as £500 for a GBBR with the magazines, gas and all that.

 

[TheGrover]

I love GBB, and prefer it over AEG. The main downside is the limited ammo, so you can't switch to full auto and hose down an area when a target is at the limit of your range.

Other than that, they're just bloody good fun

 

[Aunty Pasty]

I love GBB as well.

Advantages are increased realism with recoil and more noise. On full auto the recoil could throw your aim a little. Some people may view noise and recoil as a disadvantage but for me the it's worth it. With my GBBR I usually stick to single shot or 3 round burst whereas with my AEG I tend to be a bit more liberal.

Limited ammo means you need to play differently from using a high cap AEG. The magazines are heavy. If you're carrying 4-5 of them around at a time it can add up, especially if they're all thrown into a dump pouch.

Running costs are higher than an AEG and also maintenance as well.

Varying temperature means performance varies from day to day so I need to adjust my hop at the start of each game day.

 

[Happy]

Spring! But that isn't an option

Personally I'm a gas fan as well. I find them a lot easier to maintain and a lot more fun to shoot. Having more "realistic" ammo limits also makes it more fun for me - makes me play a lot smarter.

That said AEGs are more practical but I hate taking gearboxes apart. Most of my AEGs stay stock because of this

 

[Raggedy_man]

I'm guessing the same brands who make good AEG's make good GBB weapons or is that a dangerous assumption?

 

[Aunty Pasty]

I'm guessing the same brands who make good AEG's make good GBB weapons or is that a dangerous assumption?

No.

Have a look at this thread. It'll help with choosing a brand for GBBRs.

http://www.airsoft-forums.co.uk/index.php/topic/28296-need-help-with-picking-a-gbbr/

 

[TheGrover]

No.

Have a look at this thread. It'll help with choosing a brand for GBBRs.

http://www.airsoft-forums.co.uk/index.php/topic/28296-need-help-with-picking-a-gbbr/

I think he meant no, it's not a good idea. Manufacturers might make crap AEGs but awesome GBBRs. Plus GHK don't make any AEGs but make fantastic GBBRs.

If you already have an AEG Go for the gbb. If not, I think it's always worth having an AEG as a backup, as they seem to me to be a little more reliable

 

[proffrink]

WE and G&G being some decent examples of decent AEGs not necessarily meaning decent GBBRs (though some of the WE stuff is ok).

 

[TheGrover]

WE and G&G being some decent examples of decent AEGs not necessarily meaning decent GBBRs (though some of the WE stuff is ok).

Yes. This. My we pistol is built like a tank, but were yet to see how my brothers scar handles a few skirmishes.

 

[Qlimax]

Now it's coming into the colder season AEG is better than gas but like Proffink said HPA is the way to go. You can buy a GBBR and tap the mags to run them on HPA during the colder season and in the summer remove the taps, replace the gas valves and away you go to use gas again. HPA is a good way to go as its not weather dependant

 

[TheGrover]

Now it's coming into the colder season AEG is better than gas but like Proffink said HPA is the way to go. You can buy a GBBR and tap the mags to run them on HPA during the colder season and in the summer remove the taps, replace the gas valves and away you go to use gas again. HPA is a good way to go as its not weather dependant

Not quite as easy to do that with a GHK, as all the valves are in the top of the mag (so they dint get full of mud and sticks and worms when you're rolling around like a pro), you could try tapping the caps in the bottom of the mag but it would be a recipe for disaster I think.

At least that's the reasoning I make based on the assumption that the normal way to do it is replace the inlet valve with a Jack for your air line, and set your regulator to a similar pressure to green gas to avoid having to go to town on every seal and valve to keep it tight

 

[MrMcG]

Started off with AEG and used it for a fair few weeks but managed to get hold of a GBB vector and tbh I haven't looked back since.

The AEG has been left in the bag and all I have used is the vector I love the GBB how it feels and how it fires so far it's been flawless and maintanence has consisted of some oil on parts and nothing more.

So for me it's GBB all the way to put it another way I bought a UMG about a month ago and haven't used it yet...

 

[Qlimax]

Not quite as easy to do that with a GHK, as all the valves are in the top of the mag (so they dint get full of mud and sticks and worms when you're rolling around like a pro), you could try tapping the caps in the bottom of the mag but it would be a recipe for disaster I think.

At least that's the reasoning I make based on the assumption that the normal way to do it is replace the inlet valve with a Jack for your air line, and set your regulator to a similar pressure to green gas to avoid having to go to town on every seal and valve to keep it tight

I was saying tapping mags based on an M4 or something normal. Not a GHK G5 as I know about the full valve being in a silly place. Apparently it can be done but it takes time and you've got to be very careful.
At the moment I run one HPA assault rifle and have an AEG Backup. I used to have a HPA GBBR with tapped mags. Great fun but given the output PSI used to run the mags it wasn't very air efficient. There's someone who makes a fully converted GBBRs called Alyan but I had one and seriously just AVOID if anyone suggests getting one.

Personally I'd buy an AEG and convert it into a P* or SMP. GBBR mags are really expensive so to buy a GBBR with mags etc will cost a lot more than an AEG and making it into HPA

 

[sp00n]

Get a tippmann, hpa and takes aeg mags ?

And the recoil is epic