tacticalcolchester
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There has been talks about evening game but I need to think about it as we just built a new Trench and a night game could be an issue
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lol yes it might be an issue . Tower was fun cos it attracted different shooters . They did t have trenches . Fields , woodland village and always when it got dark then a firefight near the safe zone as the last game
Colin Allen
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Three seconds is not a short burst. I don't build guns for high RoF because I only use semi; however, even my guns can put out 60 rounds or more in that time.
My dislike of full auto at short range, or even at any range, isn't about the potential inflicting or receiving of pain; it is about the removal of the skill element. Spray and pray is just a bit naff.
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I do miss Tower; that was a cracking site.
Cannonfodder
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Pretty much every site I've played at has had a rule of limiting bursts of full auto fire to 2-3 seconds and not a single one has needed to have a MED.
tacticalcolchester
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Thats what im thinking just need to be aware youngsters on the field
So you are cool with get mag dumped at 10m? 3 second burst was fine when we are all running TMs but you you got speedy boys with 35rds wanker guns I don't go to Airsoft to get absolutely rinsed and fuck the macho only 1.13j bullshit i have had dig BBs out my arm at UK power levels.
Cannonfodder
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See my reply to Colin's post above. Also in my post you quoted I specifically said I don't think overkill is ok
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A three second burst is not equal amoung all players is the issue for me.
The guy who has a stock gun that's shooting 10-15 RPS? Probably fine. The guy who has a DSG or a HPA user firing 25-30 (or more) RPS? Probably not okay because they're emptying half of their mag, maybe even a full one, in three seconds. Simplicity avoids confusion of the rules - you know that there will be someone already abusing the "I thought that was three seconds" argument and lighting people up in full auto just to be a prick.
The guy who has a stock gun that's shooting 10-15 RPS? Probably fine. The guy who has a DSG or a HPA user firing 25-30 (or more) RPS? Probably not okay because they're emptying half of their mag, maybe even a full one, in three seconds. Simplicity avoids confusion of the rules - you know that there will be someone already abusing the "I thought that was three seconds" argument and lighting people up in full auto just to be a prick.
Cannonfodder
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In that case then maybe it would be better to limit bursts to a number of shots rather than length of time. Then again I'd rather sites dealt with individual players who are being a dick rather than punishing the majority who aren't
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I can't even begin to imagine just how difficult it would be to get people to limit their bursts their a specific number of shots unless their ETU (providing their gun has one) has a specific burst mode but even that is open to abuse.
The rules need to be simple - either semi auto or full auto, don't even think about enforcing burst fire because it's near impossible to manage as this thread shows.
I understand what you mean about punishing the majority but the unfortunate reality is that there are shit bags who play airsoft who will bend the rules, if not outright break them, that means we can't have nice things.
The rules need to be simple - either semi auto or full auto, don't even think about enforcing burst fire because it's near impossible to manage as this thread shows.
I understand what you mean about punishing the majority but the unfortunate reality is that there are shit bags who play airsoft who will bend the rules, if not outright break them, that means we can't have nice things.
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Cannonfodder
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This a thousand percent
Of course there will always be arseholes who will interpret things however it suits them or think they're special. It's how sites dealt with these people that can make the difference, how often have you heard briefings where a site says they'll deal with rule breakers but in reality do bugger all?
Which I said earlier that a 3 in the air rule is a good standard for short range CQB sites. All rules/laws are designed for the stupid/arseholes. we have speed limits because enough numpties would try to do a 100 next to a school if we didn't. We have MEDs and power restrictions because otherwise some idiot would point blank people with a converted air rifle. I do not trust any airsofters especially with the amount of people who's advice regards perceived non hit takers is to mag dump them so some poor fucker who's only crime was to not be shot in the 1st place gets covered in welts and wonders why they play this shitty game.
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Honestly, the sites i've played at, it's rare that things require marshal intervention. The times it does, it's usually the marshal having a word and that's where it ends however I do know what you're talking about. If I remember correctly one site I used to go to often would say they'd give out a super luminous/high vis armband to anyone caught cheating as a warning, the second offence of them cheating would mean they're off the site - I never saw anyone wearing that once HOWEVER it was a smaller site with a regular rotation of players who most people knew. One 'team' of players who turned up and were accused (rightly) of cheating never returned to my knowledge - no idea if this was site owner banning them or they decided to not return themselves.
tacticalcolchester does say that "Cheating will not be tolerated and you will be asked to leave upon multiple offences" so time will tell how they deal with it and if they have enough marshals to cover the play area.
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Colin Allen
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It isn’t really about punishing the majority though, is it? It is about having simple rules that even the densest player can understand and which are easy to police. Limiting shooting to a number of shots is impossible unless you either have perfect players or are going to issue every player with their own marshal to keep an eye on what they are doing. For me, it is also about the quality of the game play; semi (or at least semi with a 30m MED for full auto) provides more challenging and interesting games.
The best sites that I have played at have been semi only; that may be a coincidence, but I doubt it.
Perhaps marshalling for several years and spending far too much of my time at work dealing with utter shits who couldn't give a toss about the impact of their actions on others has made me cynical about humans.
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I feel like there are a ton of variations which make this an interesting issue to overcome:
3-second auto bursts: Subjective to what RIFs are used. I can empty a 200-round P90 mag in a few seconds if I programme my perun to do so. I don't do this because reloading 4 P90 mags every 15 minutes is hell. I can also attest that having that shot at you isn't fun, lol got a friend to do it to me, and it's horrid.
3-round burst: Not everyone will have a MOSFET or the ability to do this.
Semi Auto: Everyone has a semi-auto, but it's sad times to have a full auto capable RIF and not be able to use it.
3 in the air: a good compromise, but very, very difficult to police, relies on player honesty. I have been to a site where DMRs are 2 in the air, so easy to get carried away and fire more.
I guess the moral is: You cant please everyone
GL on your launch
3-second auto bursts: Subjective to what RIFs are used. I can empty a 200-round P90 mag in a few seconds if I programme my perun to do so. I don't do this because reloading 4 P90 mags every 15 minutes is hell. I can also attest that having that shot at you isn't fun, lol got a friend to do it to me, and it's horrid.
3-round burst: Not everyone will have a MOSFET or the ability to do this.
Semi Auto: Everyone has a semi-auto, but it's sad times to have a full auto capable RIF and not be able to use it.
3 in the air: a good compromise, but very, very difficult to police, relies on player honesty. I have been to a site where DMRs are 2 in the air, so easy to get carried away and fire more.
I guess the moral is: You cant please everyone
GL on your launch
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You really don't need a programmable mosfet to know the difference between a short 3-5 round burst and mag dumping for 3 seconds.
To be fair, the whole point is entirely down to Rule No. 1 - don't be a dick. If the players are OK and the marshalling is good, then it's not a problem. As soon as either one goes out of whack, you're on a hiding to nothing.
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Largely AI generated web page and zero pictures of the actual site. Hard pass for the time being
