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Need Advice Choosing a GBBR

TM M4 GBBR, no substitutes. 
Although the WE G36..what an amazing system that is. It’s almost 10 years old and it continues to rock. It’s also super affordable and magazines (while chonky) are widely available...unlike the TM. 

 
XukeLho said:
Hi guys, I've been rocking an AEG for the last year and I feel now is the time to 'upgrade' to a more realistic form factor. I've done my research on how they work, worth upgrades and so on, but what I'm missing is the gun itself.

I'd like a recomendation from you guys for an entry level GBBR and a mid tier GBBR as well please.

Recomandations so far:

High Tier:

TM MWS

Mid Tier:

TM MP7,

WE Apache mp5

Entry Tier:

KWA MP9

ghk g5

WE G36

 KJW KC-02 (Won't buy this one. Coolness factor too low)
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i would put GHK some where between high and mid tier they produce multiple different models which were top until the MW came out 

 
Mp9 rules. It's great fun indoor and out. Mine is efficient on gas and is easy to maintain. Can bikt for indoor and high power bolt for outdoor depending on your site.

 
Mws is king. Having owned most gas guns, including 5 ghk’s, nothing compares to the reliability and OOTB skirmishability of the mws. Like people have said though, by the time you’ve bought mags etc you’re £500 at least. 
 

Ghk are priced the same but mags are even more expensive. Also, despite what fanboys will tell you, their quality control of late has been nothing short of dreadful. Trigger feel is nicer than the mws though and co2 is a bonus. 
 

mp9 I owned and never got on with. It’s got a truly impressive ROF and it sounds great, but like every other KWA product I’ve owned it’s been crap. 
 

for sub £350 I’d recommend the WE g36c. Cheap to buy, gas efficient and great kick. All they really need is a barrel and bucking. Mags are on the cheaper end of the spectrum. Trigger boxes aren’t the best, but stock replacement parts are cheap and plentiful. As said above mags are a bit chunky so slick Kydex insert pouches are a no go. 
 

general rules for gbbr:

mws is king

ghk if you want an AK (for now)

don’t buy anything WE if it has an m4 mag

dont buy anything KWA in general. 

 
I have a GHK G5, which has performed flawlessly over about 7500 rounds fired and despite having been dropped in the mud, bled upon, playing in the cold rain and blazing heat, and being fed only Coleman propane (I do clean and maintain it - but it has never failed me in adverse game conditions)  Highly recommend.  I recently acquired a TM MWS, which is much "nicer" in pretty much every way.  If you don't want to spend a ton, though, the G5 is a great option and very fun to play with.  It is also extremely light, which is nice over the course of a long day at the field!

 
I'm leaning over to the TM MP7, with the cost-benefic relationship for now.

Can the MP7 run a drum mag? I'm only finding for HPA tapped guns.

Also, what gas do you recomend runnig on it? And same gas all year round or different gases according to temperature?

 
I managed to bag a MWS from the classified section here. It’s my first GBBR and I wanted something which I could use out of the box and with no headaches. As many people already know I’m a Marui recoil fan boy but I have to admit there is something about the MWS that’s making me grin like the Cheshire Cat. It just feels quality when you hold it. From the cerakote finish to the clang of the bolt. It’s immersive. It’s light to carry too less than 3kg. Only drawback is the mags. They are at the moment rare as rocking horse poop and sell out fast. Probably due to Covid supply chain issues. They cost £50 a pop and hold 35 rounds. I managed to buy a few and goodness they have cost me the same amount as the rifle! 
 

I’ll be running Abbey Ultra through them for the time being until I get more confidence to switch over to propane. 
 

Bada Bing Pictures was the chap whose youtube reviews made me want to buy one. I’ll see how I get on this weekend when I take her out for a spin. 

 
XukeLho said:
I'm leaning over to the TM MP7, with the cost-benefic relationship for now.
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Absolutely, positively DO NOT buy one until you've held one.

It's not a 1:1 replica and, for me at least as a result, the ergonomics are shite.

I bought one without getting hold of one first. 

Took it out of the box when it arrived. Put it back in the box in utter disappointment and sent it straight back...

 
jsmithski said:
Unless it’s a Kriss Vector. That is still probably the best Gbbr.
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I swapped a magnesium bodied, systema internalled PSG-1 for a KWA vector listening to people go on about how amazing they are. It is utterly shite and one of the worst decisions I’ve ever made. Wouldn’t have one given to me. 

 
Wo1f said:
I swapped a magnesium bodied, systema internalled PSG-1 for a KWA vector listening to people go on about how amazing they are. It is utterly shite and one of the worst decisions I’ve ever made. Wouldn’t have one given to me. 
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ha ha ha ha suckered in. If you  want to off load it, let me know.

 
I love my work in progress kscG17 that I've had for 11 years lol just finding parts for it now is a bit of a pain.

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