Quality difference

[Wo1f]

Agreed. They seem to feed shit too. My G&G UMP is shite

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

Agreed. They seem to feed shit too. My G&G UMP is shite

All the old boneyard sites used to be full of them.

It became a standing joke that on game day some poor young kid always came up holding a broken G&G looking for help.

 

[Wo1f]

That’s why I always recommend an ICS sportline as a starter gun. Twice the gun for £20 extra. 

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

That’s why I always recommend an ICS sportline as a starter gun. Twice the gun for £20 extra. 

Ics are one of my favourites, split gearboxes should be industry standard.

Very rare you get a bad one and their quality is spot on except for the hop rubber. That is made from recycled condoms I reckon.

 

[Wo1f]

Ics are one of my favourites, split gearboxes should be industry standard.

Very rare you get a bad one and their quality is spot on except for the hop rubber. That is made from recycled condoms I reckon.

Agreed. I don’t really do AEG’s, but I’ve had ICS and TM’s. They’re the only ones I’d ever recommend. The split gearbox is fantastic. Especially for a newbie who’s just stripped a piston. It’s a 5 minute job instead of an hour long fuckup. I think if the recoil range had a split gearbox and some more rigid internals, they’d be the ideal AEG

You’re right about the hop rubber though. I always swap hop rubbers on every one of my guns, being a bit of a range whore.  

 

[Guest]

Gotta love an ICS, my daughters

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[Immortal]

I won a free G&G ARP and perhaps I got lucky because it's spot on; fires dead straight, lifts 0.3 easily. Only 2 downsides are the mags; hicap is a bag of shite & midcaps are expensive but with a drum it's a happy bb popper. The seocnd issue is they made it near impossible to fit a battery in without buying a third part extender - major design flaw! Otherwise for free I have no complaints. It's like a modern tommy gun. Not something I would have considered buying but for free I'll take it! It's a fun gun.

 

[Rogerborg]

For a lot of people (such as myself) not having to replace the hop and barrel three times is worth more than the cost of the higher quality parts.

And do you think that a pot metal hop unit and a steel(ish) barrel last 4 times as long as plastic and aluminium?

How many hundreds of thousands of rounds do you typically put through your toy guns?

 

[Arwen]

For a lot of people (such as myself) not having to replace the hop and barrel three times is worth more than the cost of the higher quality parts.

The only barrel I've had to replace has been on my most expensive AEG (the Aps/Evike Falkor Defence Recce) 

The cheap barrel in the wasp has been spot on, same as the nicer looking one in the viper so far. 

I can't really fault G&G's at all. Out the box both of mine have performed fantasticly. With a flat hop they rival most stock/badly tuned snipers. 

The only problem I've had with my G&G in nearly 2 years is the small spring that moves the trigger contacts back snapped. So it got stuck on continuous full auto or safe. 

 

[Lozart]

And do you think that a pot metal hop unit and a steel(ish) barrel last 4 times as long as plastic and aluminium?

How many hundreds of thousands of rounds do you typically put through your toy guns?

I didn't say pot metal, I said better.

 

[Rogerborg]

I didn't say pot metal, I said better. 

OK, genuine question: if I were to buy an AEG hop unit, how would I ensure that I'm buying one made of better-than-pot-metal?

 

[Lozart]

OK, genuine question: if I were to buy an AEG hop unit, how would I ensure that I'm buying one made of better-than-pot-metal?

Get a CNC'd aluminium one with a proven design and a decent track record. I mention the latter purely because ProWin hops are CNC'd but seem to be a bit patchy of late on the QC front. That said, precision machined metal isn't always a guarantee of higher quality. It's still perfectly possible to make a superior quality hop out of plastic as long as mould tolerances are decent and the design is good to start with. 

 

[Guest]

OK, genuine question: if I were to buy an AEG hop unit, how would I ensure that I'm buying one made of better-than-pot-metal?

If it’s CNC’d and not cast, it will be good quality metal

 

[Lozart]

If it’s CNC’d and not cast, it will be good quality metal

But it'll only be a better hop if it's made well.

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

But it'll only be a better hop if it's made well.

Just buy a Maxx hop unit

 

[Lozart]

Just buy a Maxx hop unit

I did. It's laaaarvly.

 

[jcheeseright]

TM make their hop units out of plastic.  Enough said. 

 

[E21A]

TM make their hop units out of plastic.  Enough said. 

TM guns are lower FPS out of the box than everything else. Just saying. 

 

[jcheeseright]

TM guns are lower FPS out of the box than everything else. Just saying. 

and yet somehow they shoot further... must be magic!*

*or really good manufacturing tolerances and QC, but probably just magic.