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Airsoft 2.0 (invite to join will be closed 19/10/18)

As soon as you introduce ANY kind of reward for winning in to Airsofting (bar speed ball where it’s in a small enclosed arena that everyone can see what’s going on) the gameplay standard plummets and the foul play rockets always has always will , as it’s an ‘honor’ based game and there’s no way of telling if you’ve hit the other player or not , it’s the nature of the beast .
I know, what if you made the BBs bigger and fill them with paint.  ??

 
problem with paintballs is if they're tough enough to survive the force of firing and going through the hop unit they'll be too tough to burst on a target at extended range, which is the primary domain of the cheater.

 
I know, what if you made the BBs bigger and fill them with paint.  ??
OMG ! Why has no one thoug.... oh they already have ! ?‍♂️

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mic’s and tracking cameras are all very good in open country but once you chuck woodland in the mix there going to be as much use as a chocolate fireguard ??

 
I can see televising Airsoft might be a idea but only if you had fun and energetic players. Not for the competitive aspect but for the entertainment.

I think competitive Airsoft will always be plagued by huge issues.

(Also this thread has been hilarious, keep it up lads :)  )

 
I can see televising Airsoft might be a idea but only if you had fun and energetic players. Not for the competitive aspect but for the entertainment.

I think competitive Airsoft will always be plagued by huge issues.

(Also this thread has been hilarious, keep it up lads :)  )


How do you define fun and energetic within Airsoft? 

Animated deaths? Big personalities and epic plays?

 
How do you define fun and energetic within Airsoft? 

Animated deaths? Big personalities and epic plays?
Sarcasm one of the corner stones of Airsoft ,always good for a laugh ? 

 
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How do you define fun and energetic within Airsoft? 

Animated deaths? Big personalities and epic plays?


Well fun is a very personal thing but I always think of fun Airsoft as when people give in more to the fact that they are grown men running around with toy guns.

I think if you are gonna televise it, it's gonna be more what's entertaining.

Animated deaths are more entertaining than just putting your hand up, I have been in fits of laugher after I hit someone and he went into a Oscar winner piece with a medic.

Teamwork is always very satisfying to watch from coordinated sweep of a building to a well done flank so having players that work together would help.

Variety and aesthetic gear would also help make it more interesting to watch so having players with all different guns and uniforms (WW2 to Sci-fi).

Big personalities.... Eh. I mean just having folk that talk and are slightly likeable would be enough, folk are gonna watch for the pew more than the character drama.

I think you would have to have game modes that are interesting and varied. Adding in some people playing VIPs or villagers would add in more variables.

Epic plays would be great but I think as long as it doesn't get stale and stay interesting it should be fine.

I mean if I was doing it and REALLY wanted it to do well. I would be tempted to go down the WWE route and have everything pre planned and just have actors being players.

But anyway that's just off the top of my head. I don't think TV would do that well since you can just watch stuff on YouTube.

 
Hmmm me definitely detecting the presence of Male bovine feces ?  ?

 
Well fun is a very personal thing but I always think of fun Airsoft as when people give in more to the fact that they are grown men running around with toy guns.

I think if you are gonna televise it, it's gonna be more what's entertaining.

Animated deaths are more entertaining than just putting your hand up, I have been in fits of laugher after I hit someone and he went into a Oscar winner piece with a medic.

Teamwork is always very satisfying to watch from coordinated sweep of a building to a well done flank so having players that work together would help.

Variety and aesthetic gear would also help make it more interesting to watch so having players with all different guns and uniforms (WW2 to Sci-fi).

Big personalities.... Eh. I mean just having folk that talk and are slightly likeable would be enough, folk are gonna watch for the pew more than the character drama.

I think you would have to have game modes that are interesting and varied. Adding in some people playing VIPs or villagers would add in more variables.

Epic plays would be great but I think as long as it doesn't get stale and stay interesting it should be fine.

I mean if I was doing it and REALLY wanted it to do well. I would be tempted to go down the WWE route and have everything pre planned and just have actors being players.

But anyway that's just off the top of my head. I don't think TV would do that well since you can just watch stuff on YouTube.


I agree, it can’t be taken too seriously otherwise it just stops being fun. 

If players are asked to put in an performance I’m sure they’ll have their “thing” be that a scream or other blood curdling noise. 

Games modes are very important, but I’m a fan of emergent gameplay so the ability for things to change is where it gets interesting. After you have that, ideas will be able to be implemented on a system level. It’s like saying: build the phone and the apps will come, etc

Teamwork is everything, but it has to also be in the natural flow of the game to work, do you agree?

I’ve seen in-game reporters do this, are there any channels that are exclusively like that? 

I would watch that more than pre/post-game stuff. 

It won’t ?

I don’t watch live TV myself. 

Anybody looked at "his" (?) website on his profile ?

http://airsoft.group/


Your thoughts?

 
Haven’t we had this military training idea suggested before? Like least week? ....and the week before that.... and the one before that.. usually designed by a person who hasn’t held an air rifle before, let alone a firearm. 

 
Haven’t we had this military training idea suggested before? Like least week? ....and the week before that.... and the one before that.. usually designed by a person who hasn’t held an air rifle before, let alone a firearm. 


That isn’t Airsoft related. 

So are you going to get to the point.


Me?

 
So I may have misunderstood after sifting through all the replies on here but it looks like, in some convoluted roundabout way, you've explained that you may be on to some sort of hit detection system, which you would intend to implement?

I don't know much about optical tracking, but if it requires setting up specialized cameras capable of capturing the whole gaming area, - just go whole-hog and send everyone out with a VR headset. Get yourself a few decent developers and designers on board and set up a Augmented reality system complete with hit detection, real gun sounds etc.... throw a few explosions in there while you're at it. May sound ludicrously ambitious, but hey, no more ambitious than tracking thousands of different small projectiles in an enclosed 3D environment, moving between 250 and 550 feet per second.

 
So I may have misunderstood after sifting through all the replies on here but it looks like, in some convoluted roundabout way, you've explained that you may be on to some sort of hit detection system, which you would intend to implement?

I don't know much about optical tracking, but if it requires setting up specialized cameras capable of capturing the whole gaming area, - just go whole-hog and send everyone out with a VR headset. Get yourself a few decent developers and designers on board and set up a Augmented reality system complete with hit detection, real gun sounds etc.... throw a few explosions in there while you're at it. May sound ludicrously ambitious, but hey, no more ambitious than tracking thousands of different small projectiles in an enclosed 3D environment, moving between 250 and 550 feet per second.


We have some ideas flying around, but it’s way down the pile. 

We planned that out actually and may do that at some point, but I feel it looses the escape of the digital world. I like to disconnect when I play. 

Pretty much most of what people have brought up has been covered to a significant degree. 

 
We have some ideas flying around, but it’s way down the pile. 

We planned that out actually and may do that at some point, but I feel it looses the escape of the digital world. I like to disconnect when I play. 

 

 Pretty much most of what people have brought up has been covered to a significant degree. 


Still immensely vague....?

Sorry but you have to see this from the perspective of those who may actually be interested in whatever it is you're offering - what they're seeing is this:

"I have an idea but I don't have the necessary skills to pull it off alone, I can't tell you what my idea is though because it's super secret, but even though you've never heard from me, met me or spoken to me, just trust me" 

And then whenever anyone has poked at what your idea might be, your response is along the lines of "yeah that's part of it".

Some highlights of my ideas which are "way down the pile", that I don't have the necessary skills to execute include:

-Teleportation

-Self-cleaning clothes

-Cure for cancer

Sorry to be harsh but I'm trying to point out that what you're asking of people here is, for want of a better word, crazy!

If the idea is so good, get a patent or some sort of copyright, then share your 350 page document - if someone can be arsed to read all 350 pages, you've probably found your guy.

None the less, I wish you the best of luck with your endeavour. 

 
Long time lurker - felt compelled to register and post just for this thread.

You keep saying we... Who is we? The Linkedin profile only shows one person. You...

Sorry but this stinks of scam OR just some 25/26 y/o with a business idea for the hobby he loves so much. The companies linked in is full of marketing BS and buzz words. Seeing as Airsoft Group was 'founded' early this year and NOTHING has come of it yet, the registered address is to a totally different company and all that has seemingly been done on the page is share a few military videos. But then lets look at your social media presense... Every account is the same display picture, little to no friends (might be set to private) and the same shit posted on every account. Just sharing military videos and @ing people to contact. Your FB is just a shell of your twitter feed. Looks like you arent really Seth_K. Looks like Seth_K is a alter ego to me.

Then we actually get down to what you are asking - jesus christ. Who comes onto a public forum with an extremely vague idea asking for Chief Officers but without actually elaborating on what the idea is or how it will work. This is not something any professional I know would do.

Sorry but this SCREAMS SCAM! Or at the very least a ambitious (and somewhat interesting albeit) project that wont ever come to fruition. Sorry for the harsh words but you are doing yourself a massive disservice by approaching the situation like this. If you ever want to be considered a professional in any field you don't pull PR (which it effectively is PR given its on a public forum) like this.

 

 
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Still immensely vague....?

Sorry but you have to see this from the perspective of those who may actually be interested in whatever it is you're offering - what they're seeing is this:

"I have an idea but I don't have the necessary skills to pull it off alone, I can't tell you what my idea is though because it's super secret, but even though you've never heard from me, met me or spoken to me, just trust me" 

And then whenever anyone has poked at what your idea might be, your response is along the lines of "yeah that's part of it".

Some highlights of my ideas which are "way down the pile", that I don't have the necessary skills to execute include:

-Teleportation

-Self-cleaning clothes

-Cure for cancer

Sorry to be harsh but I'm trying to point out that what you're asking of people here is, for want of a better word, crazy!

If the idea is so good, get a patent or some sort of copyright, then share your 350 page document - if someone can be arsed to read all 350 pages, you've probably found your guy.

None the less, I wish you the best of luck with your endeavour. 


You are 99% correct, I’m not asking you or most of the forum to trust me, just a capable person to make themselves know. 

Then of course they would receive the information. 

Um, no I can’t do it alone, obviously. That’s a poor way to run a company. 

I fully expected the reaction it received, but I knew if I found the right person it would be worth it. 

Long time lurker - felt compelled to register and post just for this thread.

You keep saying we... Who is we? The Linkedin profile only shows one person. You...

Sorry but this stinks of scam OR just some 25/26 y/o with a business idea for the hobby he loves so much. The companies linked in is full of marketing BS and buzz words. Seeing as Airsoft Group was 'founded' early this year and NOTHING has come of it yet, the registered address is to a totally different company and all that has seemingly been done on the page is share a few military videos. But then lets look at your social media presense... Every account is the same display picture, little to no friends (might be set to private) and the same shit posted on every account. Just sharing military videos and @ing people to contact. Your FB is just a shell of your twitter feed. Looks like you arent really Seth_K. Looks like Seth_K is a alter ego to me.

Then we actually get down to what you are asking - jesus christ. Anyone who comes onto a public forum with an extremely vague idea asking for Chief Officers but without actually elaborating on what the idea is or how it will work. This is not something any professional I know would do.

Sorry but this SCREAMS SCAM! Or at the very least a ambitious (and somewhat interesting albeit) project that wont ever come to fruition. Sorry for the harsh words but you are doing yourself a massive disservice by approaching the situation like this. If you ever want to be considered a professional in any field you don't pull PR (which it effectively is PR given its on a public forum) like this.

 


I feel honoured that you’d choose this thread to cause you to make the leap. 

It’s absolutely fine, I’m a very persistent person and we (yes, we) are doing just fine. The important thing in life is to try, I certainly don’t want to have regrets simply because I or others thought something would be difficult.

It really makes my day that you’d be that interested to do so much research just on me. Wow! I feel like I owe you a prize or something. 

Have you worked in open source intelligence?

If not, check out Michael Bazzell’s books on the subject, you’ll love it!

If I was asking for money, sure, that’s a scam but for one person and a professional at that, hmm he/she would realise pretty quickly and I’d be paying them sooooo. 

If you reach out via whatever platform you choose I’ll be more than happy to chat. 

 
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Oof

Don't flatter yourself. He's clearly taken the time to expose you for the shill you are.

 
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