Quick Questions & Simple Answers.

[Sappysid101]

Would a high torque motor break my stock gearbox? (G&G combat machine) If not does the brand of said motor matter too much?

My gun chrono'd at 370 (give or take 5) last week so wasn't usable, would you guys recommend a new spring or cutting the spring slightly?

- Ant

 

[Ian_Gere]

Would a high torque motor break my stock gearbox? (G&G combat machine) If not does the brand of said motor matter too much?

My gun chrono'd at 370 (give or take 5) last week so wasn't usable, would you guys recommend a new spring or cutting the spring slightly?

- Ant

No a high torque motor will not break your gearbox unless the reason you want one is to pull a much more powerful spring. Why do you want one?

Cutting springs is not recommended. There are several reasons why, but in this thread it's enough to say that you can break stuff. You need to downgrade. I recommend an Element M105 from Bullseye Country Sport - it's a tenner posted and will give you about 345FPS, assuming a decent air seal and standard barrel.

 

[Sappysid101]

Thanks for spring advice! I'll order one tomorrow. To answer the motor question I've been told it will increase my RoF. I don't want to upgrade for a 11.1 lipo as it sounds like a lot of work (I know nothing about airsoft internals)

- Ant

 

[Ian_Gere]

Depending on which motor brand you choose, it may increase your ROF a fraction, but generally high torque motors are more powerful for pulling heavier springs not faster. A high speed motor is what you want for higher ROF, but that may very well "break your gearbox" unless you upgrade the piston, shim the gears properly, and grease it thoroughly. You can use a high torque motor in combination with 13:1 gears to increase ROF though and a G&G plastic piston possibly would cope with that.

 

[fitsu]

I just got a g&g combat machine along with WE Airsoft Europe 8.4V 1600mAH Crane Stock Battery.

Could you guys please recommend what charger/power supply I would need for this and where to get it? Also why do I need a power supply, can't I just plug the charger into the wall?

I live in the UK.

Thanks for any help!

Edited red to comply with the thread format - Ian_Gere

 

[Ian_Gere]

I just got a g&g combat machine along with WE Airsoft Europe 8.4V 1600mAH Crane Stock Battery.

Could you guys please recommend what charger/power supply I would need for this and where to get it? Also why do I need a power supply, can't I just plug the charger into the wall?

I live in the UK.

Thanks for any help!

Edited red to comply with the thread format - Ian_Gere

You only need a power supply if the charger you buy doesn't have one built in. But your battery is an NiMh so you don't need the type of charger which usually doesn't have a built in power supply. This is more than you need, but considering it's only £14 posted and it's Vapex you should consider it, because although you can get a simpler machine from componentshop.co.uk cheaper, when you add their famously expensive shipping, it will be about the same price.

Oh, and you should also consider getting a 2nd battery to have as a spare, because accidents happen, and also because sometimes a 1600mAh battery will get run flat on days when you get cramp of the trigger finger If I were you I would buy a VP Racing / Vapextech battery as your main and keep the WE one as a spare - you will get really excellent performance out of them (you will notice the difference in trigger response and the crispness of the firing cycle, not just in rate of fire) <- buy it at the same time as the charger direct from Vapextech and maybe get a shipping reduction, although they only charge £2 to ship a battery anyway...

 

[fitsu]

You only need a power supply if the charger you buy doesn't have one built in. But your battery is an NiMh so you don't need the type of charger which usually doesn't have a built in power supply. This is more than you need, but considering it's only £14 posted and it's Vapex you should consider it, because although you can get a simpler machine from componentshop.co.uk cheaper, when you add their famously expensive shipping, it will be about the same price.

Oh, and you should also consider getting a 2nd battery to have as a spare, because accidents happen, and also because sometimes a 1600mAh battery will get run flat on days when you get cramp of the trigger finger If I were you I would buy a VP Racing / Vapextech battery as your main and keep the WE one as a spare - you will get really excellent performance out of them (you will notice the difference in trigger response and the crispness of the firing cycle, not just in rate of fire) <- buy it at the same time as the charger direct from Vapextech and maybe get a shipping reduction, although they only charge £2 to ship a battery anyway...

Could you possibly link which battery you would recommend getting please? Treat me as if I were a child because I don't understand much about this side of things.

Huge thank you for the help you've given, lots of people on this forum have been very helpful in my choices thus far.

 

[team flex]

fitsu I recommend a lipo charger, when you do buy a lipo if you do, you can charge a lipo as well.

So me and a mate just kryloned his vsr, and now we are thinking as the paint can easily scratch, what is a good clear protective layer. I have forgotten the name of it, and does it need it?

 

[Ian_Gere]

Could you possibly link which battery you would recommend getting please? Treat me as if I were a child because I don't understand much about this side of things.

Huge thank you for the help you've given, lots of people on this forum have been very helpful in my choices thus far.

fitsu I recommend a lipo charger, when you do buy a lipo if you do, you can charge a lipo as well.

Flex makes a good point there, but chargers which do both NiMh and LiPo's are more expensive. The one to go for in that case is the iMax B6 (which you can find on fleabay or amazon) - it comes in 2 formats: with the power supply built in, or without. The reason to buy it without is if you think you may take it somewhere where you will run it from a car battery (like a site with no facilities or a weekender where charging facilities are limited), otherwise may as well buy the lot as 1 unit. The PS you need is the type which looks like a laptop charger but outputs 12V @ 5000mAh -ish (4500 will do if the price is attractive) with the standard 12V size cylindrical plug (5.5mm) which accepts a pin down its centre inside the socket.

But bear in mind that, although LiPo's are the way forward, to get the best out of them you also want Deans connectors, 16AWG wiring, and a MOSFET - with standard wiring, Mini Tamiya connectors and no MOSFET, a VP Racing 8.4V NiMh will just outperform most 7.4V LiPo's and so long as you look after it, ie discharge it between uses, it will last well also. TBH you don't even want to think about what you need to know to jump to 11.1V LiPo's until you have at least skirmished the gun and got to grips with what the various parts of its mechanisms are called, plus how they work of course.

I'm not certain which NiMh battery pack you need, 2 leg or 3, but Vapex make them both and any others you may fancy, so if you don't see what you need here, it's probably just a job of emailing them. Somebody with more experience of wombat machines will be able to tell you exactly which shape fits your model.

So me and a mate just kryloned his vsr, and now we are thinking as the paint can easily scratch, what is a good clear protective layer. I have forgotten the name of it, and does it need it?

Krylon Clear Coat - from patrolbase. Put it on in 3 light coats, allowing at least 15mins to dry between coats.

 

[team flex]

ok cheers ordering that now.

Does anyone know the thread size on the vsr 10 for the outer barrel? my mate is looking to put a mabull python in and he needs a suppressor as he will be using 509m one. I have no idea what the length is. cheers

 

[team flex]

also, are pdi raven barrels any good?

and are welts .43 any good?

 

[Unrustle_Thine_Jimmies]

ok cheers ordering that now.

Does anyone know the thread size on the vsr 10 for the outer barrel? my mate is looking to put a mabull python in and he needs a suppressor as he will be using 509m one. I have no idea what the length is. cheers

Marui,Laylax and PDi produce a 14mm CCW thread adapter for the VSR 10 Pro series.You can find them on Ehobby,Xfire and most HK sites.

also, are pdi raven barrels any good?

and are welts .43 any good?

PDi Ravens are known to be very good. Some have outperformed the more expensive SUS304 steel barrels. Although 6.01s are generally 'power up' barrels the PDi Ravens have fantastic accuracy on par with their own 'Accuracy' bore 6.05mm barrels due to a very good coating on the carbon steel they use. I will try and find a test a Japanese magazine made comparing PDi Ravens to their SUS304 counterparts.

What do you mean by welts .43s? Brand? google isn't showing much

 

[team flex]

Yeh on patrol Base. Yeah, cheers for that, we sprayed it, will upload pictures tomorrow

 

[Ian_Gere]

I bought some Welts 0.43's from patrolbase, but I haven't tried 'em yet. Dave reckons they're good and he's not known for talking shite.

 

[team flex]

Ah OK aren't you using it with the pdi barrel? Let me know how you get on

 

[Ian_Gere]

Yeah, I've got a PDI 6.01x590mm in Svetlana - nobody has said that could be a problem though. It's those white BB King 0.4's which have a question hanging over them in that regard. But yeah, as soon as I can form an opinion I'll let you know...

 

[straffham]

(on mobile)
anyone know if the hop rubbers in TM & ASG AEP series (specifically the Mac10, Skorpion & Glock 18) are the same in all these models? And what aftermarket ones are available, if any?
Thanks!

 

[joshcowin]

whats the difference in degrees in hop rubbers? thanks

 

[Lozart]

whats the difference in degrees in hop rubbers? thanks

It's the hardness of the rubber. Forget temperature or angles it's nothing to do with that. Basically, the higher your FPS the harder the rubber you'll need.

 

[joshcowin]

so what degrees would i need for a 340fps rifle?