Help me spend my money wisely...... On a gas rifle (Maybe!)
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More! Tell me more! Why? Aside from magic.......
I'm guessing they're under 300fps? What's the accurate range like with them?
Why the MWS over any other TM GBBR?
A couple of other chaps have asked me why I don't just get a TM EBB - and the honest answer is, I don't know!
The MWS is essentially the same platform as all the TM GBBR range... So far.
I had mine in the summer shoot at almost 390fps so it is weather and gas reliant, it is by no means underpowered.
It is consistent, accurate, fantastically fun to shoot and is stunningly finished.
I fired a TM SCAR H ebb which changed my mindset on AEGs. The MWS is a step up on that experience.
Plus, it will hold its value if not for you.
I have not used an AEG in over a year since buying mine and it has run in all weather's.
I had mine in the summer shoot at almost 390fps so it is weather and gas reliant, it is by no means underpowered.
It is consistent, accurate, fantastically fun to shoot and is stunningly finished.
I fired a TM SCAR H ebb which changed my mindset on AEGs. The MWS is a step up on that experience.
Plus, it will hold its value if not for you.
I have not used an AEG in over a year since buying mine and it has run in all weather's.
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The other question I should have asked was:
Why the TM M4 over the GHK ?
GHK is the only other m4 platform worth considering. Range and accuracy is not on par with the TM, and when it comes to airsoft guns, how far it will shoot accurately is the main criteria (at least for me).
I know I probably sound like a TM fanboy, so I’ll play devils advocate here. The GHK is very efficient in terms of gas consumption and has more options of magazine. They have green gas and CO2 mags. The parts look realistic and are very strong. While not as refined as the MWS, you’ll have to do something stupid to break one. They feel nice and have a good kick. Also... and not really related to performance.. I love building them. If someone let me build GHK m4’s all day I’d be so happy.
MWS> GHK m4> McDonald’s straw> we m4.
WE do make good guns, but the m4 isn’t one of them.
I know I probably sound like a TM fanboy, so I’ll play devils advocate here. The GHK is very efficient in terms of gas consumption and has more options of magazine. They have green gas and CO2 mags. The parts look realistic and are very strong. While not as refined as the MWS, you’ll have to do something stupid to break one. They feel nice and have a good kick. Also... and not really related to performance.. I love building them. If someone let me build GHK m4’s all day I’d be so happy.
MWS> GHK m4> McDonald’s straw> we m4.
WE do make good guns, but the m4 isn’t one of them.
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A gas VFC? I’ve never owned one but I’m under the impression that externally they are beautiful, but aren’t gas gas efficient. If you want a gas m4 I can only recommend the mws and the GHK.
If youre referring to the electric then the TM recoil 416/417 are superior in performance to the VFC. Again, I’ve never owned one, but I’ve heard the VFC hop is not the best
If youre referring to the electric then the TM recoil 416/417 are superior in performance to the VFC. Again, I’ve never owned one, but I’ve heard the VFC hop is not the best
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Thank you to everyone for all the advice. I went with reliable. Because I'm cack handed!
I love my wife!
Rather than getting mad at me, she bought me a new gun
So I'm now the proud, yet slightly scared new owner of a GHK G5.
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I love my wife!
Rather than getting mad at me, she bought me a new gun
So I'm now the proud, yet slightly scared new owner of a GHK G5.
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Going round in circles I am.
I'm generally refining my wants list.
Not sure if a Tipmann fits.
I want something that's not going to break on its first outing. Or, preferably it's 10th or 20th.
I want something that's reliable, accurate and has a decent range.
I've decided that for CQB I'm just going to run with a pistol. Because it's fun!
So I just need something for outdoor games.
I like the idea of a DMR for the extra range - I'm not particularly bothered about the loss of full auto - I'll gladly swap that for an increase in usable, accurate range.
I've looked at so many guns my head is swimming.
So far:
The Tipmann looks good, but I'm not sure if it fits the criteria regrading range/accuracy
The MWS looks good, but again, not sure about the range.
What am I missing?
Any more suggestions, as it seems my decision making abilities are compromised.
I'm sat in a hospital room at the mo, watching youtibe videos, where every single gun is JUST BRILLIANT! (Apparently) and as a result, I'm befuddled.....
I'm generally refining my wants list.
Not sure if a Tipmann fits.
I want something that's not going to break on its first outing. Or, preferably it's 10th or 20th.
I want something that's reliable, accurate and has a decent range.
I've decided that for CQB I'm just going to run with a pistol. Because it's fun!
So I just need something for outdoor games.
I like the idea of a DMR for the extra range - I'm not particularly bothered about the loss of full auto - I'll gladly swap that for an increase in usable, accurate range.
I've looked at so many guns my head is swimming.
So far:
The Tipmann looks good, but I'm not sure if it fits the criteria regrading range/accuracy
The MWS looks good, but again, not sure about the range.
What am I missing?
Any more suggestions, as it seems my decision making abilities are compromised.
I'm sat in a hospital room at the mo, watching youtibe videos, where every single gun is JUST BRILLIANT! (Apparently) and as a result, I'm befuddled.....
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Alright this probably isn't going to be a welcome suggestion due to the G5 experience, but I will say it anyway.
GHK M4.
As I said, the G5 was their low budget "accessible" option which sacrifices quality to lower cost. The internals are zinc and the externals are polymer, but the gun simply kicks too hard for the build quality.
The M4, on the other hand, has steel internals out of the box. Unlike most brands, the externals are not crappy pot metal either, they are a high grade aluminium (though RATech offer higher grade 7074 aluminium receivers too). The internal mechanism is realistic and the kick is great. Accuracy is also brilliant, there are many tests on YouTube. However, if you are spending this much on a gun then the chances are that you will eventually switch the hop up rubber and inner barrel anyway. I believe the GHK M4 is compatible with AEG rubbers and inner barrels.
Performance wise, the MWS and GHK M4 are essentially the same, with the MWS having slightly less recoil. While the GHK is a replica, the MWS was designed more towards being an airsoft gun, hence the internal mechanism they've come up with.
These are basically the 2 best M4 GBBRs on the market and you aren't going to go wrong with either choice.
I really miss my GHK M4
I would normally never recommend WE, ever. However, this SCAR-H GBB I have is ridiculously fun. Although the internals of mine have mainly been switched out to the likes of Angry Gun or RATech, with few things remaining as WE. Could be worth a look, the SCAR H mags are very gas efficient due to their size and all the controls are basically ambidextrous with the exception of the bolt release. Even the charging handle can switch sides which is nice. Besides, you can most definitely build a DMR from a SCAR H.
For reference, the Tippmann's hop is not so good.
OR, if performance is what you are after, buy a TM MK23. The one-handed silent sniper. Or put it in a carbine kit.
Gonna stop typing now because I feel like I have no life writing an essay on gas guns :lol:
GHK M4.
As I said, the G5 was their low budget "accessible" option which sacrifices quality to lower cost. The internals are zinc and the externals are polymer, but the gun simply kicks too hard for the build quality.
The M4, on the other hand, has steel internals out of the box. Unlike most brands, the externals are not crappy pot metal either, they are a high grade aluminium (though RATech offer higher grade 7074 aluminium receivers too). The internal mechanism is realistic and the kick is great. Accuracy is also brilliant, there are many tests on YouTube. However, if you are spending this much on a gun then the chances are that you will eventually switch the hop up rubber and inner barrel anyway. I believe the GHK M4 is compatible with AEG rubbers and inner barrels.
Performance wise, the MWS and GHK M4 are essentially the same, with the MWS having slightly less recoil. While the GHK is a replica, the MWS was designed more towards being an airsoft gun, hence the internal mechanism they've come up with.
These are basically the 2 best M4 GBBRs on the market and you aren't going to go wrong with either choice.
I really miss my GHK M4
I would normally never recommend WE, ever. However, this SCAR-H GBB I have is ridiculously fun. Although the internals of mine have mainly been switched out to the likes of Angry Gun or RATech, with few things remaining as WE. Could be worth a look, the SCAR H mags are very gas efficient due to their size and all the controls are basically ambidextrous with the exception of the bolt release. Even the charging handle can switch sides which is nice. Besides, you can most definitely build a DMR from a SCAR H.
For reference, the Tippmann's hop is not so good.
OR, if performance is what you are after, buy a TM MK23. The one-handed silent sniper. Or put it in a carbine kit.
Gonna stop typing now because I feel like I have no life writing an essay on gas guns :lol:
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