Safest way to buy

Having just been tidily ripped off by a seller with positive ratings on (currently down) zeroin, I'd suggest:

1) Not paying F&F. Offer to pay the extra couple of pounds in fees.  If they insist on F&F, they're either planning to scam you, or they're too lazy to set up a seller account which is also a bad sign. See also sellers who haven't bothered to get all the details of their item to hand before they advertise it, or who haven't planned which courier they'll use.

2) Only deal with sellers who can provide recent positive referees, and then actively check them.

3) The matey-matier they are, the scammy-scammier they are.

I'll be approaching any future deals with considerably more scepticism and caution.


One thing I'll just pop in here with from the other perspective - I sold quite a large job lot over paypal for £600, but only about £530 showed through - it transpires they'd selected the "pay for goods and services" and also they'd sent me the payment somehow through USD and back again - so it had gone through 2 currency conversions, plus a 3.4% fee, which I'd ended up stuck with - I'd already negotiated way down lower than I really wanted to go, so the extra £70 was a kick in the teeth.

I'm always happy to sell to someone using the goods and services, but it can also make things awkward if I end up receiving a lot less than I was expecting, or if they end up paying a lot more than they were expecting, depending on where fees are going.

I found that this is an even bigger problem when people have signed up to paypal.com instead of paypal.co.uk unknowingly, as it seems to incur a reciprocal USD conversion fee as well.

 
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Hey guys have any of you ever bought a rif from weaponcrates using 'Shield'


That site looks like it was written by a monkey wearing a pair of clown shoes on its hands.  And it got the Short Bus to monkey school.

"When you buy this item, your [sic] protected."

But I can't see any details on how.  I had to click on "Buy" on some random item (no sorting, no filtering, no indication even on how old listings are so good luck finding what you're looking for).  Right, it adds £2.something in fees to a £140 listing.

"After checkout, the seller will have 7 days to send the items, on the 7th day if you do not open a dispute the money is released to the seller."

OK, so it looks like an escrow system that charges a fee.  Fair enough, but your [sic] putting your trust in a completely anonymous service that doesn't see the need to provide any form of real life name or contact information.  How is that any better than J. Random Seller?

rocketdogbert implied that he got his money back after disputing, but in the event that weaponcrates did dick you over, against whom would you claim?

It's a nice idea, but the implementation is truly awful.  It's almost like whomever is behind it has gone out of their way to make it look dodgy as all get-out.

 
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Ah, righty.  Did you try disputing through weaponcrates first?

 
Hey guys I bought a rif off weaponscrates last night when I tried to go through ' Shield' it asked me to put in my billing details which I did about 10 times and it kept saying ' whoops something has gone wrong' so in the end I sent the money goods and services through Paypal, hopefully the rif will turn up and shield will turn itself to unshielded 

 
So can someone fill us in on weaponcrates..I've never heard of it...

 
Paypal fees really aint that bad, Ebay is terrible sometimes though but come on if you dont want to pay those fees dont sell or buy...

 
Hey Snuff weaponscrates is just a site you can buy and sell rifs on buddy 

 
https://weaponcrates.com/gb

It's barely functional.  No filtering or sorting by weapon type, price, date, delivery options, or anything else.  You can't even see how old adverts are.  Some of them are greyed out, but if you click on them they still appear to be active, so what does that even mean?  It's like the site's fallen through a timewarp from 1998 - all it's missing are the "under construction" animated gifs.  :lol:

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Hey guys I bought a rif off weaponscrates last night when I tried to go through ' Shield' it asked me to put in my billing details which I did about 10 times and it kept saying ' whoops something has gone wrong' so in the end I sent the money goods and services through Paypal, hopefully the rif will turn up and shield will turn itself to unshielded 


Fingers crossed for you, Dredd.

Did you contact the seller first?  I rather suspect that a lot of the listings on there are abandonware.

 
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I have purchased off of Weaponcrates with no issues. The website has just been updated/changed so it still has its niggles, in fact if you search the forums you'll find their start up page.

Its just like buying from these forums.

 
Its just like buying from these forums.


With an escrow charge.

I do wish whomever is behind it well, it's a decent idea and I hope the site and service improve.

But as it stands I'd use it only as a way to get in touch with a seller and buy directly from them.  The value of an escrow service is that you can trust it rather than the seller.  An undocumented service from an anonymous entity that you couldn't meaningfully hold to account isn't worth the price of the paper that the non-contract isn't written on.

 
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Hello buddy yes I contacted the seller first 

 
Hey guys my parcel arrived today which I bought from weaponscrates, tbh I've been a nervous wreck waiting to see if it turned up but tbh the guy I dealt with had been in touch each day and also before I paid he made sure he took my ukara etc... overall I'm chuffed to bits with the service he provided 

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Hey guys my parcel arrived today which I bought from weaponscrates, tbh I've been a nervous wreck waiting to see if it turned up but tbh the guy I dealt with had been in touch each day and also before I paid he made sure he took my ukara etc... overall I'm chuffed to bits with the service he provided




I'm glad it all worked out for you! Looks like a nice rifle. You may not want to post your full postal address though.....maybe take that last picture down?

 
your front door is like your coffee table, needs new varnish :P   *stalker* 

 
Hey Albiscuit that dog in the background is a known killer :)

 
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