Should this even be allowed

[TheRifleMan]

People who dont call their hits.

I feel bad for saying it, but If its the first time I let it past.

If they done it a few times, I aim for bare skin.

If its a screaming idiot who has managed to piss off the entire site because unsportsman like conduct, I aim to be his new dentist.

Feel kinda like a dick saying it, but its true. Im not the only one, right?

Well, if people don't take my hits... I just simply charge up to them with my G&P, spray the heck out of them until they shout "HIT!" Works everytime! ^_^

 

[SheriffHD]

well, Im glad Im not the only one who tried to cause as much pain as I can.

 

[Nickona]

aim for the testicles if they're being a real b***h about hit taking...

 

[remus]

my standard loadout i carry around 1800 rounds per game, if they dont take hits i keep firing... and shout take your hits to draw marshals attention to it. in a go a short while back i shot someones face mask, clearly heard the ping, and the aww then he ducked behind cover got up and fired again, whilst beside a marshal... dummy, lol. got kicked out for that...

as for the mirror system, in normal games, definitely unfair(specially for those whos weapons cant have one mounted...). counts as blind firing afik. however i can see it being possible/legal in milsims where your trying to be realistic and seems something id expect to be done irl... though i do intend to get one of those dental styled mirrors so i can prop it somewhere and know when someone's coming so as to step out and shoot....

 

[Nickona]

I carry 2500 in one mag, so I really keep firing!

The issue with the mirror system in milsim is you don't have the recoil that you would do in real life. IRL it would be very hard to get more than a couple shots off vaguely accurately but in airsoft you can get through a whole mag

 

[SheriffHD]

I carry less than 600 rnds. (Normally have a spare bag of ammo in friends car for refils)
I dont bother calling "take your hits" its just makes people sound like moaning women. I just aim for skin, or teeth. and make it so that want to call a hit. Its why I always get annoyed at people who wear the full body armour because the want to look cool, it absorbs all the impact so they dont even notice.

 

[CaptainDumbass]

Xsite have the if it hit the gun the gun deac rule. Last game I managed to use my M249 and its massive mag as a shield.. and then proceeded to go pistol whipping people with my revolver

I play at xsite!! Amazing place! Gotta love the 'gun hit' rule!

 

[Airsoft-Ed]

I carry less than 600 rnds. (Normally have a spare bag of ammo in friends car for refils)

I dont bother calling "take your hits" its just makes people sound like moaning women. I just aim for skin, or teeth. and make it so that want to call a hit. Its why I always get annoyed at people who wear the full body armour because the want to look cool, it absorbs all the impact so they dont even notice.

I tend to hear hits more than feel them, I'd forgotten how much they hurt until I ran without a rig last weekend in CQB... It was only 4°C as well... Might as well have been firing Bee's arses at each other lol.

 

[remus]

yea wt what point does armour become too much/too little. ideally i want to feel it, but not be hurt by it.... specially when most people try to get their guns as close to the upper fps limit as possible...

 

[Nickona]

I play at xsite!! Amazing place! Gotta love the 'gun hit' rule!

Well if you're a Lane End tomorrow please feel free to say hi! I'll be in plain ODs with my M249 and a chrome revolver

yea wt what point does armour become too much/too little. ideally i want to feel it, but not be hurt by it.... specially when most people try to get their guns as close to the upper fps limit as possible...

It entirely depends, I don't really feel it through my RAV but if I'm wearing a chest rig and it hits a mag pouch I won't feel that either.

If it just hits my shirt and the shirt is close to the skin it'll hurt but if it hits a loose bit a material it won't, just run whats comfortable/useful and deal with any or lack of pain that comes. However I always wear my RAV in CQB just as added protection

 

[remus]

same. though now im wondering how many times ive been hit and should have been out but never noticed....

 

[SheriffHD]

In all fairness, Im used to getting hit by paintballs, so the sting of a bb isnt much, I mean Usually i'l get pounded by balls hitting me at 11Joules, so a 1Joule is welcome.

(I guess im gona get hate for playing both sports)

But yeah, WIth both, i like to use as thin as material as i can on my vests.

I used to use a warrior PC but i got anoyed for the reason above, and not feeling the hits (Im one of these sick bastards that likes the pain) So I dropped the rig and sarted using a viper swat vest or chest rig.

 

[Rock-climby-Dave]

I mean Usually i'l get pounded by balls hitting me

Quote of the day there, ladies and gentlemen

 

[joshcowin]

IMO it should only be used for looking and not shooting,spraying round a corner is the same as blind firing and isnt fair on other teams

 

[jcheeseright]

if someone stuck their gun round a corner and fired it at me with one of those things I would get very angry very quickly. They provide an incredibly limited field of view and it is still blind firing.

 

[ScoobySnacks]

Indeed jcheese. Forget the arguments about whether it's fair or not. If you go down the line of "his bit of kit gives him an advantage and that's not fair" then the inevitable end is that everyone must have exactly the same kit "to make it fair".

The real problem with these things is that they are dangerous! You are not physically behind the weapon. You do not have the field of view to ascertain that someone isn't about to stick their bonce in front of your barrel and get a mag full of bb's behind their goggles.

Mark is usually extremely strict on blind firing, for exactly that reason. The same reason you can't stick your barrel up against the gap between door and frame, or fire through a hole you can't fit your head through.

I'm amazed these guys were allowed to carry on using those sights, if the issue was brought to the attention of the marshall team.

Da Sheriff, yes, you do sound like a bit of a prick saying that. Deliberately aiming to hurt people, or cause damage, because they haven't taken a hit? How do you know that they felt it? They might not know they've been hit. Even though we all go in to the game knowing there is the possibility of getting hurt, if I ever believed a player was deliberately setting out to injure people, then their feet wouldn't touch the ground, and if they DID manage to injure someone, especially a potentially permanently disfiguring, and definitely very expensive, broken tooth, then I'd consider reporting them to the police for assault.

And I'm afraid, when marshalling, if I hear someone shouting "take your hits" it's they who will receive the bollocking!

If you have an issue with a player, then call a marshall over to deal with it. It's their job and in most cases they're pretty good at it. Call the marshall, explain the problem, move on and enjoy your day. I've heard stories (possibly apocryphal, but believable) of people having a 20 minute firefight with a guy behind a door, calling them all the names under the sun and screaming at them to "take your f#####g hits!!!!", only to be told once he'd wasted several mags of bb's that he'd been having a firefight with his own reflection.

If you "cheat call" you just look like a twat. And as for trying to hurt someone because they don't take the hit, that's sick and dangerous, and I hope I never have to play with you if you behave like that!

 

[Airsoft-Ed]

If you "cheat call" you just look like a twat. And as for trying to hurt someone because they don't take the hit, that's sick and dangerous, and I hope I never have to play with you if you behave like that!

I think, as with most people, he would only resort to either of those things, if he'd seen the person flinch, or otherwise react to having been hit, only to then carry on playing.

And I have to admit that if I see people being cheating arseholes, I do feel they deserve some motivation not to do it again. It takes a particularly bad case to force me to cheat call though, I think I've only ever done it once and it's because the guy was literally dancing in pain, under fire and standing 90° adjacent to cover and myself, for 3 freaking mags and I was getting ready to deck him and force feed him acid.

It annoys me that the marshal can never be sure of the severity of the offence, so sometimes (by which I mean, when it gets as bad as the above) cheat calling is the only way they'll realise you can physically see them being an arse.

Though I do use my tac light to show them I can see them as well, and it's amazing how much faster people take the hit when you shine a light in their face, sometimes it's almost like my gun gains 10m extra range, which suggests to me that a lot of people cheat very often when they know you're a good range away and can train themselves to not react to the hits...

 

[Nickona]

then I'd consider reporting them to the police for assault.

Good luck with that! "so whats that, you're playing a game where you shoot each other, and you got shot badly, eff off!"

All that would result is either you getting laughed at or the sport banned...

 

[CaptainDumbass]

Well if you're a Lane End tomorrow please feel free to say hi! I'll be in plain ODs with my M249 and a chrome revolver

Sadly my scar-l is in repair at the moment and I have to go to a wedding today so I can't make it

Not sure when I'll next be at lane end but if you see someone there whos around 6 foot tall, rocking a black scar-l with pmags and a black swat Loadout (usually with a helmet), that's me! so feel free to say hello.

 

[ScoobySnacks]

Nick, I wouldn't bet on it.

Yes, we go along knowing there is always the danger of being injured. However, when someone deliberately sets out to do damage, that's a very different thing!

When I fire at someone, I aim to hit them, to achieve some objective in the game. I will aim for the least painful visible part. I do not try to hurt people deliberately, to do so is against the ethos of the game as I understand it.

It is not my job to enforce the rules, or to try and hurt someone who I think is not following the rules. That's what the marshalls are for.