Low power ‘hit’ - bounce or direct hit?

[SheriffHD]

I'm a fat guy, ive got loads of juicy bits to hit. Always play by the idea "if I'm doubt, then I'm out" because a gentle walk back to spawn a sip of water and maybe a breather is what my knees need.

What I seem to see alot lately is people shooting through dense vegetation every round bouncing in every which direction then having the gall to call people cheaters for not calling it.

One kid got the drop on me, unloaded his mag from about 10ft I was more impressed that nothing hit me. Just stood there dumbfounded and asked if his gun worked - gave him the kill because it was a good ambush and he deserved it but it really highlights that we're playing with toys that don't behave like real guns and it seems alot of people are forgetting that lately.

 

[BigStew]

I'm a fat guy, ive got loads of juicy bits to hit. Always play by the idea "if I'm doubt, then I'm out" because a gentle walk back to spawn a sip of water and maybe a breather is what my knees need.

What I seem to see alot lately is people shooting through dense vegetation every round bouncing in every which direction then having the gall to call people cheaters for not calling it.

One kid got the drop on me, unloaded his mag from about 10ft I was more impressed that nothing hit me. Just stood there dumbfounded and asked if his gun worked - gave him the kill because it was a good ambush and he deserved it but it really highlights that we're playing with toys that don't behave like real guns and it seems alot of people are forgetting that lately.

People don't seem to understand you actually have to aim. Keep seeing so many which gun is the most accurate on Reddit groups and keep wanting to type you actually have to learn how to shoot!

 

[Badgerlicious]

People don't seem to understand you actually have to aim. Keep seeing so many which gun is the most accurate on Reddit groups and keep wanting to type you actually have to learn how to shoot!

I had a pistol shootout with a guy a few months ago, I was just in a fairly open area ambushing people trying to get past a bush, we were maybe 30-40m apart in full view, both firing about 5 rounds each at each other, neither of us actually moved at all, mine happened to hit first. He didn't say much, but there was certainly some muttering of disbelief. And a number of times I've just had shots go everywhere around me but hit me, like a cartoon bullet outline, and I've been on the other side of it. 

You'd be hard pressed to convince me that 90% of players calling cheat have actually landed a single bb on target. 

 

[SheriffHD]

You'd be hard pressed to convince me that 90% of players calling cheat have actually landed a single bb on target. 

God, seeing people's bbs fall short because you're out of range only to hear them yell "call your hits" 

 

[TheFull9]

It's partly because I'm a little short sighted combined with not being very good at airsoft, but I don't think I've ever been close to certain someone was not calling their hits (personally).

Yet I sit through every single safety brief every single game day and they say "no cheat calling, it's as bad/worse than not hit taking" and at every single skirmish I hear "oiii take yer fuckin 'its maaate".. ?  Pathetic, cringe bs.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

whilst i don't disagree with the notion that many cases of cheat calling may well be the result of misinformation, it's worth noting that this doesn't mean there aren't people wearing copious amounts of plot armour in this hobby.

 

[ghostwalker]

A flip side to my other story wasd being at combat thetford a few years back.

I had managed to outflank the opposing team and get in behind them. Stumbled upon a group who were the sites resident players apparently. Slowly moved up picking a few off until i ran into their 'sniper'.

In full view of a marshal i shot him in the backside from about 20 metres (close enough to see the round bounce off). Guy flinches, looks around and then goes back to sniping. I figure ok, maybe it wasnt a clean hit and put a double tap into his backside, behold the same reaction.

At this point i look at the marshal who shrugs, switch to full auto and put a good 20 rounds into the snipers backside at which point he finally calls hit and wanders off. A minute or so later his mates light me up as they return from respawn.

Couldn't believe the marshal just stood and watched and didn't say a word.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

Couldn't believe the marshal just stood and watched and didn't say a word.

Not only can i beleive it, i'm not even surprised.

 

[Colin Allen]

God, seeing people's bbs fall short because you're out of range only to hear them yell "call your hits" 

Back in my marshalling days, a group of players were becoming annoyed that a chap that they were shooting at was not taking his hits.  I went over to where he was lying to observe; their BBs were falling about 3m in front of him.

Similar things happened so many times.

Not only can i beleive it, i'm not even surprised.

It sums up the quality of marshalling at many sites.

 

[Tackle]

Back in my marshalling days, a group of players were becoming annoyed that a chap that they were shooting at was not taking his hits.  I went over to where he was lying to observe; their BBs were falling about 3m in front of him.

Similar things happened so many times.

It sums up the quality of marshalling at many sites.

I took cover behind a tree that was considerably skinnier than me, bout 5 players were peppering the tree but not hitting me, I'm pissing myself laughing when a Marshall walks over & confirms "none of you are hitting him", until eventually one of the cross-eyed buggers did ?

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[Cannonfodder]

whilst i don't disagree with the notion that many cases of cheat calling may well be the result of misinformation, it's worth noting that this doesn't mean there aren't people wearing copious amounts of plot armour in this hobby.

I find that often the ones who cheat call the most are the ones who need a few extra shots to encourage them to call the hit. 

 

[Dan Robinson]

Twice I've asked a Marshall to check a potential cheater....once it was confirmed that I was indeed doing an admirable job of stripping the tree he was hiding behind of bark, and that my bbs were only just reaching him.

Second one turned out (on reflection) to be a flag poking out from behind a tree.

Felt like a plonker both times.

 

[Tommikka]

Second one turned out (on reflection) to be a flag poking out from behind a tree.

A spare glow stick and a bush can be a fun combination at a night game 

 

[Adolf Hamster]

A spare glow stick and a bush can be a fun combination at a night game 

Torch+treebranch+place to hide= hours of fun listening to people get annoyed at that guy who wont take his hits.

 

[Kzwi]

I find that often the ones who cheat call the most are the ones who need a few extra shots to encourage them to call the hit. 

But Maybe they are right and you might find yourself in a youtube video titled “AIRSOFT CHEATER WONT TAKE THEIR HITS until i go close to them and revenge killed by headshot with my HPA shooting 13 000 bbs per second” And then you’d have to move to a different county and change you name and loadout to escape the burning enduring shame    

 

[Cannonfodder]

But Maybe they are right and you might find yourself in a youtube video titled “AIRSOFT CHEATER WONT TAKE THEIR HITS until i go close to them and revenge killed by headshot with my HPA shooting 13 000 bbs per second” And then you’d have to move to a different county and change you name and loadout to escape the burning enduring shame    

That sounds oddly specific. Are those words of experience?

 

[Kzwi]

@Cannonfodder Nope, ?  ? just taking the piss on that whole youtube genre.

I actually hate how they represent the hobby, and i was looking for some youtube tutorials and as soon as you type airsoft in the search bar, here they come !!

 

[Cannonfodder]

@Cannonfodder Nope, ?  ? just taking the piss on that whole youtube genre.

I actually hate how they represent the hobby, and i was looking for some youtube tutorials and as soon as you type airsoft in the search bar, here they come !!

No worries, my reply wasn't serious either.

I know what you mean about the goontoobers and their bullshit clickbait videos, if I ran a site I'd seriously consider banning anyone who puts up those cheater exposed videos

 

[Rogerborg]

if I ran a site I'd seriously consider banning anyone who puts up those cheater exposed videos

I'm hearing more sites saying "Show us negative footage and give us a chance to deal with it before publicising it" now.  Which is as pointless as most other things that they say at the brief, because those who are listening aren't a problem, and those who are a problem aren't listening.

Consequences, or don't bother.