Is there a way for a 16yo to get a RIF?

[Rogerborg]

also they dont mind me buying the airsoft gun its self I don't know why

Presumably they don't know that you're committing a criminal offence, with no defence or exception.

I mention this as (mostly) a technicality, since you've already got one.

 

[SBoardley]

This thread is a little worrisome as I feel discussing potential loopholes which can enable a *gulp* “child” to purchase an item only legally available to an “adult”, is detrimental to our beloved hobby. The only way this kid should be able to possess a rif is if his dad is a ukara registered player or his father buys a two tone and gifts it to the lad. 
The lad is actively seeking ways to break the law and we as a community should not be offering options to enable him. 
True it’s tough on him, but my dad wasn’t even around at his age let alone buying me cool shit. It’s called childhood, and when you get to a certain again you can buy what the hell you want; fill yer boots! 
If I was his dad, I’d be asking who the fuck bought him his two tone, and what did he have to do to have it “gifted” nudge nudge. 

 

[Rogerborg]

This thread is a little worrisome

More so than airsoft retailers selling without a real defence?

Going by what we've been told, his parents are commendably cautious, know about (but don't approve of) his IF, and it's securely stored between game days.  That's what will protect our hobby, not the laws around selling and buying which are more honoured in the breach than the observance.

And the harsh reality is that anyone can get a RIF by the application of a little paint, or by buying 2nd hand from someone who doesn't ask for a defence.  I wouldn't recommend that OP do either of those, but telling him not to won't actually prevent it.  We're not his dad, so to speak.

Sniper tape is a decent compromise, and the one I'd advocate.

 

[Tommikka]

To add to ‘sniper tape’, there are two to three types:

1) Camouflage patterned sticky tape 

This varies in quality and can be a good finish or a sticky mess

Any level of quality will leave sticky residue so is on a practical basis a ‘permanent’ solution unless you want to spend time cleaning up gunky residue when / if it gets removed 

2) Cohesive bandage which only sticks to itself and also gives good grip 

This may be marketed as a sniper / hunter wrap tape in a few camouflage patterns (which often gets price markups)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pinsheng-Reusable-Camouflage-Self-Adhesive-Non-Woven/dp/B09GY4WTKK/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=2RPUYXJQX147Q&keywords=camo+foam+tape&qid=1664883118&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIzLjIzIiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=camoform%2Caps%2C81&sr=8-3

or as vetinary / horse tape which can be had at a reasonable price if you can find a good ‘country stores’ or a friendly vet.

This is available in very wide ranges of bright & dull colours, pretty patterns and camouflages

…. And both via the internet 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cohesive-elastic-bandages-SUPERIOR-camouflage/dp/B07CHXBCJQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=37VILCLHU6KMC&keywords=equestrian+vet+wrap+green+camouflage&qid=1664883360&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjAxIiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=equestrian+vet+wrap+green+camouflage%2Caps%2C69&sr=8-4

3) British Army sniper tape in ‘ally’ green which can leave nasty residue.

This can be sourced from some army surplus shops (especially near barracks etc) at varying price levels and at uplifted prices on eBay etc when accompanied by the description ‘SAS sniper tape’

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fabric-Webbing-Scapa-Genuine-British/dp/B00HBTYC7A

But …. More importantly, keep your parents on board

They may dislike guns, but are showing a good point of view in supporting you with playing the hobby.

Attitude is the winner - if you are responsible, don’t act like a gun nut, do act like a hobbiest who plays consensual activities of shooting friends in a safe environment then you can enjoy this for years / decades 

The colour of an IF/RIF has no bearing on its capability 

If someone on a game day thinks you’re a silly kid with a bright toy BB gun then let them think that and shoot them all day

 

[T800pug]

I apricate it everyone! I think for my assult rifle im going to buy IF and try this wrap however I'm going to approach a second hand seller online with the permission from my parents for a pistol. ♥

 

[Rogerborg]

What's wrong with your Lancer?  Or rather, what are you expecting a more expensive gun to do differently?

 

[T800pug]

It’s a fully automatic assault rifle and so is limited to 350 fps which it can’t even reach, I’m trying to get a marksman since my site allows them to go up to 425 and most of the map is very open and long distance.

 

[Tommikka]

It’s a fully automatic assault rifle and so is limited to 350 fps which it can’t even reach, I’m trying to get a marksman since my site allows them to go up to 425 and most of the map is very open and long distance.

It’s not all about range & velocity, and if you go down that road you’re trapped in a rabbit hole of tweaking parts to increase x, further tweaking to do so  consistently and then turning it down to try and hit the target you pointed at

Usually the better way to go is to get closer, find alternate routes instead of the big long range stalemate in the middle of the field 

If most of it is long and open then that implies you can flank.  If a game zone is just long and open, without at least sporadic cover then it’s a poorly designed site. If it does have a wide open area plus alternative routes then it’s a better designed site to cater for those who will exploit the design 

 

[T800pug]

It’s not all about range & velocity, and if you go down that road you’re trapped in a rabbit hole of tweaking parts to increase x, further tweaking to do so  consistently and then turning it down to try and hit the target you pointed at

Usually the better way to go is to get closer, find alternate routes instead of the big long range stalemate in the middle of the field 

If most of it is long and open then that implies you can flank.  If a game zone is just long and open, without at least sporadic cover then it’s a poorly designed site. If it does have a wide open area plus alternative routes then it’s a better designed site to cater for those who will exploit the design 

I agree however I want to change my gamePlay and want to play further and hide in bushes and towers.

 

[Rogerborg]

It’s a fully automatic assault rifle and so is limited to 350 fps which it can’t even reach, I’m trying to get a marksman since my site allows them to go up to 425 and most of the map is very open and long distance.

Fair point.  Personally I'd yeet DMRs right out of the game because they're regularly abused to trigger spam, despise any rules about 2 second delays / 1-in-the-air. But that's between your conscience and your site.

Please be aware that DMRs are (almost always) made, not bought.  Whatever you get, you'll need to - at a bare minimum - replace the spring, and find a way to lock it to semi that will satisfy your site.  They may also have some ideas about what constitutes a DMR, i.e. it has to be based on a 7.62mm / .308" gun rather than 5.56mm.

 

[T800pug]

Fair point.  Personally I'd yeet DMRs right out of the game because they're regularly abused to trigger spam, despise any rules about 2 second delays / 1-in-the-air. But that's between your conscience and your site.

Please be aware that DMRs are (almost always) made, not bought.  Whatever you get, you'll need to - at a bare minimum - replace the spring, and find a way to lock it to semi that will satisfy your site.  They may also have some ideas about what constitutes a DMR, i.e. it has to be based on a 7.62mm / .308" gun rather than 5.56mm.

To be specific my site says that anything that is locked to semi auto other then pistols and spring rifles count as marksman’s and are limited to 425 fps with a 10 or 20m minimum engagement distance can’t remember which one.

Sort of unrelated to this thread but are there any bases that you would recommend to build ontop of?

 

[Rogerborg]

Sort of unrelated to this thread but are there any bases that you would recommend to build ontop of?

Typically CYMA.  M14 for classic styling, or CM.098 for SR-25.  Of course, many other platforms, brands and budgets are available. I'm running one based on a Specna Arms SA-E02 (i.e. a 5.56mm carbine) with a barrel extension and solid stock, it really comes down to preference, budget, and site rules.

At the end of the day, they'll perform as well as the nozzle, hop unit, rubber and barrel allow. The BB doesn't know or care what the externals look like.

 

[T800pug]

Typically CYMA.  M14 for classic styling, or CM.098 for SR-25.  Of course, many other platforms, brands and budgets are available. I'm running one based on a Specna Arms SA-E02 (i.e. a 5.56mm carbine) with a barrel extension and solid stock, it really comes down to preference, budget, and site rules.

At the end of the day, they'll perform as well as the nozzle, hop unit, rubber and barrel allow. The BB doesn't know or care what the externals look like.

Ye of course thank you for the suggestions I’m going to do some more research later.

 

[Cannonfodder]

Higher fps doesn't equal more range. A decent hop unit and barrel would be a better investment. Keeping below the 1.1j will mean you don't have to worry about a MED and you still have full auto for those ooh shit moments. Also any half decently run site will insist you also carry a secondary for the closer engagements

 

[T800pug]

Higher fps doesn't equal more range. A decent hop unit and barrel would be a better investment. Keeping below the 1.1j will mean you don't have to worry about a MED and you still have full auto for those ooh shit moments. Also any half decently run site will insist you also carry a secondary for the closer engagements

Interesting however I did just buy a glock 18c with a 50 round clip so I don’t have to worry about the fully auto aspect so I cover the secondary part. 

 

[MadMole]

How are you buying these IF's? You're under 18 so its a criminal offence to do so regardless of their colour, do you parents know this or are they buying them for you?

 

[Tackle]

It’s a fully automatic assault rifle and so is limited to 350 fps which it can’t even reach, I’m trying to get a marksman since my site allows them to go up to 425 and most of the map is very open and long distance.

No, its not limited to 350fps, that's just the ballpark figure it's hoping to achieve with its current collective of parts & its set up. 

Same goes for its range & accuracy, its down to parts & setup, as well as its ability with semi & full auto. 

All of this can be fixed relatively easily, & for not a stupid amount of money. 

Which to me sounds like a better option than attempting to "circumnavigate' (ie break) the law in relation to the vcra. 

Personally though I think you should feck right off, but that's only cos I'm obscenely old at almost 55 & clearly riddled with dementia etc?