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Macks airsoft dreamers of the week thread

thought I'd share this as he brought the gun from me a few weeks ago for £220 without a scope

pretty sure the base model was an A&K too, as it had some A&K gears as spares


Hi all!

To clear up so things because people seem to jump to conclusions and spend their free time discussing sh*te instead of directly messaging me to so I could correct the add..

Firstly, yes it was purchased from you for £220 @strykerles and so what? wether I paid £2 or £200 whatever I decide to list an item for is my choice and no one else's no one is forced to purchase it, its called reselling welcome to the world of business buy cheaper and then sell for more! reselling for more isn't "shady" @Tackle and to then say "would he be daft enough to think he'd get away with doing it on the same forum only a few weeks later ?" there was no ill intent when I posted this have sold 50+ RIFS on this forum in others with no issues I just didn't identify this RIF properly..

Secondly, What does the scope have to do with all this @Adolf Hamster and more-so wether I purchased it from @strykerles and it is the same RIF or not why does it matter I'm confused @Druid799??? the scope wasn't part of the bundle I listed or otherwise it would have been specified in the description (yes maybe I could have uploaded a picture without the scope...) 

Thirdly, I thought that it was a G&P GR25 PTS limited edition as when looking at the A&K model it didn't look like it, thanks to @Speedbird_666 help I can now see it is an A&K and will be relisted as an A&K

Lastly instead of bashing someone actually try and help as it was an honest mistake and not a "fraudulent and dishonest" ad like described by admins or some... So: 

-@Cannonfodder "if hes only herto rip poeople off then fuck him"

- @Tackle "would he be daft enough to think he'd get away with doing it on the same forum only a few weeks later ?"

- @Skullchewer "Presumably he saw he was tagged in this thread. Take your rip off behavior elsewhere, @Louisd

He needs a ban, IP ban preferably. "

- @EvilMonkee "Stop being so reasonable we want a lynching!!"

YOUR CONCLUSIONS ARENT NEEDED AND WAIT FOR A REPLY NEXT TIME!!!! @Jedi_Master Thank you for not banning me and inviting me to respond on this thread instead of also jumping to conclusions like some have.

Hopefully this clears the air for all of you!

It will be re listed and priced accordingly!

Thank you.

 
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The key word was if

Also if it was sold as an A&K how did you come to the conclusion it's a G&P? 

 
@Louisd, your absolutely correct, your free to name your own price, after all there's nothing immoral about making a profit on something, case in point only yesterday a guy sold a star wars toy that he bought for a pound, at auction it sold for 2k?

BUT

when you bought it, the sellers ad clearly states his belief that its an A&k, supported by the accompanying spares.

But you claimed it to be a higher end variant from a completely different manufacturer, one would assume in order to justify the mental s/h price for what's in reality a bashed up A&k....... 

Thing is, that shit might go unnoticed over on Zin, but not here, not ever?

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@Louisd, your absolutely correct, your free to name your own price, after all there's nothing immoral about making a profit on something, case in point only yesterday a guy sold a star wars toy that he bought for a pound, at auction it sold for 2k?

BUT

when you bought it, the sellers ad clearly states his belief that its an A&k, supported by the accompanying spares.

But you claimed it to be a higher end variant from a completely different manufacturer, one would assume in order to justify the mental s/h price for what's in reality a bashed up A&k....... 

Now that's 

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"his belief" exactly! so not a fact so I did some research to have "my own belief" which turned out to be wrong and

"But you claimed it to be a higher end variant from a completely different manufacturer, one would assume in order to justify the mental s/h price for what's in reality a bashed up A&k......." -> If it had been what I thought it was my £600 open to offers would have been justified turns out its a G&P so it will be priced accordingly for what it is as I mentioned in my response to all it was an honest mistake and otherwise would have not been priced so highly. 

I have read it and it answers fuck all
 Reading classes will help at that point because my reply covered everyones comments and questions, have a nice day!

(Not here to argue to everyones further replies, your points were made I have replied to all no further comments are needed!)

 
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I'll try again and make it simpler for you. 

What research led you to think it was a G&P? 





"I reckon the seller thinks that the gun is one of these:

https://airsoft.tiger111hk.com/p19549/G&P-SR-25-Sniper-AEG(Magpul-PTS)-(Limited-Edition)(Black)/product_info.html

The lack of Magpul markings on the stock would make it pretty unlikely, along with the URX rail.

This looks like it:

https://www.bespokeairsoft.co.uk/a-k-dmr-ak25-black-dmr-25-bk"

 Quoted from @Speedbird_666 previous comment.

the fact it looks similar to this: https://airsoft.tiger111hk.com/p19549/G&P-SR-25-Sniper-AEG(Magpul-PTS)-(Limited-Edition)(Black)/product_info.html



 
Now that wasn't so difficult was it? 

Edit: the lack of trademarks and the muzzle is an obvious sign it's not a G&P

 
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Moderator Comment

I have removed the DMR advert based on the information above.  However, no one had bothered reporting the advert as suspiscious or an issue.

I have invited @Louisdto respond in Mack's


tbf, i didn't think it was breaking any particular forum rules/suspicious. just a high asking price which isn't really an issue (beyond getting a roasting in this thread).

Firstly, yes it was purchased from you for £220 @strykerles and so what? wether I paid £2 or £200 whatever I decide to list an item for is my choice and no one else's no one is forced to purchase it.


this is absolutely true, you're perfectly entitled to ask whatever price you like, however the purpose of this thread is to give prospective buyers a fair picture of what they're potentially buying. it's a novel approach compared to other forums but it seems to work out.

Secondly, What does the scope have to do with all this @Adolf Hamster


the relevance of the scope is that it's the only thing that appeared to be added to the bundle (insofar as it appeared in the pictures, insinuating it's inclusion). an expensive optic would of course add value to the overall package and hence turn a high asking price into a perfectly reasonable asking price.

and more-so wether I purchased it from @strykerles and it is the same RIF or not why does it matter I'm confused @Druid799???


identifying it as the same rif is important to rule out that you hadn't, for example, purchased the gun from strykerles and were now selling a completely different, albeit superficially similar gun.

basically that we weren't doing this:

Thirdly, I thought that it was a G&P GR25 PTS limited edition as when looking at the A&K model it didn't look like it, thanks to @Speedbird_666 help I can now see it is an A&K and will be relisted as an A&K


and mistaking you selling a g&p limited edition gun that merely resembled the a&k you'd bought from strykerles which would change our opinions on the asking price.

the scope wasn't part of the bundle I listed or otherwise it would have been specified in the description (yes maybe I could have uploaded a picture without the scope...) 


as above, the scope being pictured in the advert insinuated it's inclusion in the bundle. often when people are selling guns sans-optics they either remove the optic to take pictures or specify in the advert "optic not included".

Lastly instead of bashing someone actually try and help as it was an honest mistake and not a "fraudulent and dishonest" ad like described by admins or some... So: 

-@Cannonfodder "if hes only herto rip poeople off then fuck him"

- @Tackle "would he be daft enough to think he'd get away with doing it on the same forum only a few weeks later ?"

- @Skullchewer "Presumably he saw he was tagged in this thread. Take your rip off behavior elsewhere, @Louisd

He needs a ban, IP ban preferably. "

- @EvilMonkee "Stop being so reasonable we want a lynching!!"

YOUR CONCLUSIONS ARENT NEEDED AND WAIT FOR A REPLY NEXT TIME!!!!


i wouldn't worry so much about it, we generally avoid political talk on here so folk gotta get their drama from somewhere :P

Hopefully this clears the air for all of you!

It will be re listed and priced accordingly!

Thank you.


good man, hopefully you can find a buyer a bit easier now :)

 
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I’m sorry @Louisd but EVERY excuse/reply/answer give to the justifiable questions you’ve been asked about the gun are quite farcical to say the least , apart from the fact it’s an SR ‘type’ gun there’s nothing about it that says it’s the G&P model , for starters there’s no trad’s on it of any sort ! Yet the gun in the airsoft tiger add you’ve used as justification for the claim is positively festooned with licensed logo’s FFS?

plus when you come down too it even just in photos you can tell the difference in quality of materials used between a cheap’n’cheerful Chinese knock off and a quality piece like a G&P let alone when it’s in your hand ? PLUS if you do want to go down the “oh it was a simple mistake” excuse route then I’m sorry but with your claimed extensive sales history we would expect you of all people to be able to tell the difference between the two levels of quality when the gun was in your hands ?  
 

Well, at least he had the testicles to actually come onto the thread and try to defend himself. 

More than what can be said for the likes of Andrey and Avenger63 in the past. 
Testicles ? Or pig thick skin ? ?

 
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Testicles ? Or pig thick skin ? ?


Either way, surely the points you've raised have been labored enough already? 

He got caught out through this thread, Mods stepped in to remove the Ad, tried to justify his actions on here (which, again, is more than many have done in the past), met with a healthy dose of (justified) skepticism, pledged to mend his ways.

Macks is a beautiful thing - it has eyes and ears everywhere. If he tries it again - we will find out. 

 
tbf, i didn't think it was breaking any particular forum rules/suspicious. just a high asking price which isn't really an issue (beyond getting a roasting in this thread).

this is absolutely true, you're perfectly entitled to ask whatever price you like, however the purpose of this thread is to give prospective buyers a fair picture of what they're potentially buying. it's a novel approach compared to other forums but it seems to work out.

the relevance of the scope is that it's the only thing that appeared to be added to the bundle (insofar as it appeared in the pictures, insinuating it's inclusion). an expensive optic would of course add value to the overall package and hence turn a high asking price into a perfectly reasonable asking price.

identifying it as the same rif is important to rule out that you hadn't, for example, purchased the gun from strykerles and were now selling a completely different, albeit superficially similar gun.

basically that we weren't doing this:

and mistaking you selling a g&p limited edition gun that merely resembled the a&k you'd bought from strykerles which would change our opinions on the asking price.

as above, the scope being pictured in the advert insinuated it's inclusion in the bundle. often when people are selling guns sans-optics they either remove the optic to take pictures or specify in the advert "optic not included".

i wouldn't worry so much about it, we generally avoid political talk on here so folk gotta get their drama from somewhere :P

good man, hopefully you can find a buyer a bit easier now :)
Thank you for your constructive response, have a nice day :)

6 of one, half a dozen of the other ?

50+ plus rif sales, feedback of one lol. 


I love how you purposely pick out the part where I mention on this and other platforms.... this isn't the only second hand Airsoft platform. "lol"

I’m sorry @Louisd but EVERY excuse/reply/answer give to the justifiable questions you’ve been asked about the gun are quite farcical to say the least , apart from the fact it’s an SR ‘type’ gun there’s nothing about it that says it’s the G&P model , for starters there’s no trad’s on it of any sort ! Yet the gun in the airsoft tiger add you’ve used as justification for the claim is positively festooned with licensed logo’s FFS?

plus when you come down too it even just in photos you can tell the difference in quality of materials used between a cheap’n’cheerful Chinese knock off and a quality piece like a G&P let alone when it’s in your hand ? PLUS if you do want to go down the “oh it was a simple mistake” excuse route then I’m sorry but with your claimed extensive sales history we would expect you of all people to be able to tell the difference between the two levels of quality when the gun was in your hands ?  
 

Testicles ? Or pig thick skin ? ?


Use your common sense and refrain from senselessly responding to a "closed" topic, I have made an honest mistake which I have owned up to there's nothing more nothing less going on so keep your unneeded childish comments to your self. I am sure as an adult you might take pride in more interesting things than gaining others approval with some sub par jokes on an Airsoft forum! 

 
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