TM Recoil, good or all hype?

[Sacarathe]

I considered the recoil shock, but the bolt catch feature is the part I like the most. I figure eventually someone will figure out a way to make this in an AEG.

I own the 416D Devgru - Like others this is my first gun so have no basis for comparison. I had a few sensible minor upgrades carried out which takes the FPS on 0.25's to around the 340ish mark as well as giving me that little more distance I needed.

Where can you use that?

 

[Juggernaut]

My TM HK416 is my first airsoft gun, so cannot really compare it to other makes. However, I think it is worth the price; it is well built, feels solid (although some may think it a bit heavy but that is where a sling helps), the recoil is fun and sounds great on full auto. It has plenty of rails for attachments.

Whilst the TM recoil magazines only come in two capacities, 82 BB low-cap (can switch them to real-cap 30 BB) or 500 BB high-cap. The 82 BB mags do not let the gun dry fire when empty as they hold the bolt back which is a useful feature.

Large enough battery space in the stock, and taking advice I swapped out the sopmod battery for a 7.4V LiPo with deans connectors.

If you like the HK trademarks, then some of the TM guns still have them, which is why they are not always advertised in stock.

Being 285-295fps means there are no issues with playing at any site, and there are third party parts/suppliers (i.e. Eagle6) to upgrade it. I have my hop set for 0.25g BB and it is accurate but does not have greatest distance.

Biggest decision is whether to buy the standard HK416D or the DEVGRU version.

If it doesn't have great distance, in my HK416D ive installed an R hop up shooting further on .25s than other guns shooting on .2s

 

[Juggernaut]

My TM HK416 is my first airsoft gun, so cannot really compare it to other makes. However, I think it is worth the price; it is well built, feels solid (although some may think it a bit heavy but that is where a sling helps), the recoil is fun and sounds great on full auto. It has plenty of rails for attachments.

Whilst the TM recoil magazines only come in two capacities, 82 BB low-cap (can switch them to real-cap 30 BB) or 500 BB high-cap. The 82 BB mags do not let the gun dry fire when empty as they hold the bolt back which is a useful feature.

Large enough battery space in the stock, and taking advice I swapped out the sopmod battery for a 7.4V LiPo with deans connectors.

If you like the HK trademarks, then some of the TM guns still have them, which is why they are not always advertised in stock.

Being 285-295fps means there are no issues with playing at any site, and there are third party parts/suppliers (i.e. Eagle6) to upgrade it. I have my hop set for 0.25g BB and it is accurate but does not have greatest distance.

Biggest decision is whether to buy the standard HK416D or the DEVGRU version.

If your not getting the distance you want. On my HK416D I've installed an R hop up which shoots further on .25s than other people shooting on .2s. If you do have an R hop up your looking about £110 price mark

 

[jcheeseright]

If your not getting the distance you want. On my HK416D I've installed an R hop up which shoots further on .25s than other people shooting on .2s. If you do have an R hop up your looking about £110 price mark

Basically all guns will shoot further with a .25 than with a .20

I don't see what your point is? 

 

[Sharpe_95]

As I'm soon to have a new job I'm going to save for a new AEG. So are the TM recoil series of rifles as good as everyone says or not?

I bought my TM hk416 devgru as my first gun for airsofting this Jan.

While I have nothing to compare it to in terms of other rifs owned i have to say I really like it. Works perfectly every time, shoots really well and seems to have very good range and accuracy. My mates (that have been airsofting for many years) say it's very good.

I can't say if they are worth the money as i have little to compare it to, but I do like mine a lot

- Sharpe. 

 

[Rogerborg]

Basically all guns will shoot further with a .25 than with a .20

Sure, now, but physics might have worked differently in 2015.

 

[Luke85]

I have the SCAR L recoil shock, ran it for 6 months and loved it. Shot brilliant out the box and outperformed a lot of other AEGs despite the 1J performance. After 6 months I bit the bullet and sent it to Eagle 6 for upgrades, lvl 4 + mosfet, now shoots as 345fps and is an absolute beast. Using .25 or .28 BBs its accuracy in most typical engagement ranges (25-50m) is laser like. Love it. Only down side is the cost. at north of £400 its already expensive. With the upgrades too Its pretty much a 1k AEG.

 

[gadget]

I have had two scar l cqc recoils and I absolutely love them 

theres only one issue I have after owing my current one for 6 months I used it twice and the gears went 

and it is electronically dead. I will be getting it upgraded. but I would like to know if this is a common fault or have I just been unlucky 

with it. it was brought brand new and is now abount 10 months old

 

[gadgetmusprime]

I currently own the recoil cqc scar l. this is the second one that I have owned but I have a problem after two uses the gears have gone 

and this issue happened on my first one aswell. I absolutely love the weapon but it is totally unuseable due to the gears and the fact its electronically dead 

is this a common fault or have I just been unlucky with this particular model 

I will be up grading it but need to know if it will be worth it in the long run

 

[Prisce]

I currently own the recoil cqc scar l. this is the second one that I have owned but I have a problem after two uses the gears have gone 

and this issue happened on my first one aswell. I absolutely love the weapon but it is totally unuseable due to the gears and the fact its electronically dead 

is this a common fault or have I just been unlucky with this particular model 

I will be up grading it but need to know if it will be worth it in the long run

Very unlucky. Had my Tm Scar L for 18months now. Still running solid as ever. Never had an issue with it.

 

[Rogerborg]

Can... no... longer... resist.

 

[EvilMonkee]

I maintain my stance that TM are not worth the money these days.  In days of airsoft past circa 1998, yes, absolutely - where their reliability and ability to actually perform to 50m consistently set them ahead of everything else.  Now, not so much - every rifle I have, I have compared to a TM and they all shoot just as well without the need for 'upgrades' that cost the price of the rifle again to achieve.  

 

[Luke85]

Can only repeat what I said previously, I ran my SCAR L NGRS for 6 months and loved it. No issues or problems and great performance. I upgraded and decided to throw more money at an already expensive gun out of choice, because I could afford to and that was MY decision to make. The gun did not need it, I already loved how it performed, I just wanted more, I wanted those micro improvements because I could, and because I could afford them. Yes, you can get the same performance from a cheaper gun, but will that gun have the recoil, the automatic cut off when your out of ammo (which I absolutely love), the build quality, the low battery warning system, no, it wont. Same performance yes, but, for me at least, its those little extras that made the TM recoil worth every penny. Guy in the video just seems overly upset, its not his money people are spending on NGRS's. There are plenty of decent airsoft guns on the market, I would never tell someone to only look at TM NGRS. But, if you can afford one and those extras appeal to you, go for it. They are great guns without upgrades. Not the best money can buy, and you can certainly get the same performance for much less, but great guns none the less. 

 

[heroshark]

Grand scheme they cost a lot for what they give extra. But if you want those extra functions they are still one of the only guns that do those extras reliably (as long as you leave it alone), and they are good as stock. I think Lukes point (the guy in the vid) is the attitude that some people have it's a must to change everything as soon as you get it to make them good/worth using. When in fact they are perfectly use-able without and will more often than not last along time if you leave them the hell alone. I changed the hop, barrel and run a plug and play mosfet in mine. Went from 280 fps to 315fps and puts no extra strain on the GB. Side by side to a fully upgraded ones there is FA in it. Once it dies I'll do more to it but till then I'll leave it the hell alone.

 

[Musica]

3 hours ago, Rogerborg said:

Can... no... longer... resist.

Every youtuber ever "heres my new TM but I'm sending it off to xxx tech (deffo not a advertisement) to get £1000 of parts put in to it so it's tuned for me"

 

[Rogerborg]

I maintain my stance that TM are not worth the money these days.  In days of airsoft past circa 1998, yes, absolutely - where their reliability and ability to actually perform to 50m consistently set them ahead of everything else.  Now, not so much - every rifle I have, I have compared to a TM and they all shoot just as well without the need for 'upgrades; that cost the price of the rifle again to achieve.  

 

[EvilMonkee]

I don't even think they are the best for all those features such as last round and recoil.  The KWA recoils (designed by the same chap who did the TM) are far superior.

 

[Lokai]

My TM 416 is great to use and I do get better range than both my Krytac and VFC, the recoil is ok but the stop on empty (for me) is a fantastic feature. What I really want now is one of those GBLS DAS rifles, they look to be the next evolution in AEGs.

 

[Musica]

Stop on empty is something I like. My evo does it( but they have their own problems)

To be fair I don't like hopups that aren't rotary and AKs are usually a sllder so it might be cheaper but is lacking a few features like stop on empty, EBB and the rotary hopup.  Not really apples to apples but they both shoot bbs about as far as you can.

 

[heroshark]

I don't even think they are the best for all those features such as last round and recoil.  The KWA recoils (designed by the same chap who did the TM) are far superior.

Have you experience with it ? I'm no expert. From what I've read they're better in some ways but not others. Both as stock tms having the better longevity and hop. Kwa more power and recoil . Also the bolt stop system being more reliable in the tm.