Which gun is better

[jim765]

im just wondering which of these is better please answer of what you think is better in your opinion

 

[Happy]

G&G for me since they have the better track record for decent guns and quality control.

Plus it's an M4 - parts, mags and accessories are a lot easier to source.

 

[team flex]

the G&G is better in my opinion. Nearly everyone will recommend it I reckon... I have one and it is brilliant. It is low maintenance and shoots surprisingly well. G&G all the way!

 

[Samurai]

The externals of the cyma Mp5 are better than the raider - it's metal and nice, and the raider is plastic and nice. The internals are as good as the G&G. But the mp5j needs a railed front end IMO.

Edit: sry, if the G&G is also metal, then that one.

 

[Fugi94]

the gc-26 raider is full metal its the cm16 which is not

i would aslo vote the raider as i am getting that exact gun

 

[TacMaster]

I have a G&G TopTech M4 and I've had the CYMA CM041 MP5J in the past.

G&G M4- pros

• G&G, so nice internals
• Decent externals
• As it's an M4 there's a lot of aftermarket parts out there for it
• There are a LOT of different designs of M4 in G&G's range, from machine pistol size M4s to longer than full length rifles
• G&G have better quality control, however the occasional lemon slips past them
• M4 mags are very easy to source
• If you stick with hicap magazines you get a massive capacity of over 500 rounds (if you can bear with the rattling)
• All M4s with a removable carry handle have a top RIS rail for optics as standard. Plenty of G&G M4s come with RIS hand guards as well
• ROF tends to be fairly good for a general purpose AEG

Cons:

• Externals aren't the nicest on G&G, G&P and VFC are better in that regard
• M4s can be a bit picky about magazine compatibility- certain brands work in certain guns, others don't, if you try to be safe and buy G&G mags but you can't find any it, can be a hassle buying mags trying them out and sending them back if they don't feed/fit properly
• M4s are the most popular airsoft guns, meaning they are the most common to see at normal skirmishes. That being said some of G&G's M4 range look very alternative to the standard M4, and that massive amount of aftermarket parts I mentioned before will come in helpful if you want to make your M4 more original

CYMA MP5 pros:

• Very powerful out of the box
• CYMA are second only to TM when it comes to their hop units and rubbers, they're amazing for a cheap gun
• As it's an MP5, they tend to be more compact than the standard length M4s- completely telescopic stock on the J model helps with this
• MP5s are marginally less common
• The only type of MP5 magazine that does not fit the CYMA is the SRC magazines, as they're proprietary to the SRC MP5
• There are some pretty awesome MP5 body kits around like the Swordfish kit
  
• There are also a few RIS kits around for the MP5
• The V2 gearbox on a CYMA MP5 is very easy to work on
• Has a nice metal construction which doesn't feel TOO bad- the plastics feel pretty good though
• You can do the ultra-cool HK slap with the cocking handle!

Cons:

• As it's CYMA, downgrading the spring power is required to make it's muzzle velocity site legal
• The gearbox has potential but needs a little TLC to get the very best from it- a deep clean, regrease and gearset Angle of Engagement correction should be priorities in gearbox prepping
• Some of the 'J' models of CYMA MP5 don't have a RIS system
• All airsoft MP5s don't usually have a top rail for optics included with them- usually £15-£25 extra
• Hicap magazines only hold about 200 BBs
• Some people believe that because of the length of the magazine it's harder to use the weapon in the prone position- I had no issues with it, but that's just me...
• CYMA MP5s are made with a type of pot metal that can be fragile under certain conditions- I had no issues with mine, but as it was my first AEG I wasn't exactly throwing it around
• When firing the gearbox makes a horribly loud screech
• The ROF is pretty low OOB

All in all I'd recommend the G&G GC16. It's a better all round gun which doesn't suffer from an unstable gearbox like the CYMA MP5 does (if it's stock that thing feels like it's about to shake itself apart when it's firing) with many more options for upgrades and external customisation.

If you're dead set on the MP5 design, go for the G&G MP5 instead. I've heard some very good things about them.

A quick note to any newcomers: 'What am bestest gun' threads aren't the best way for us to help you out when you're deciding on your first/second/whatever gun

 

[Ian_Gere]

Join the dark side: get a CYMA CM.028U, give her a girls' name, and masturbate furiously while stroking her.

Not that I do that with mine h34r: