usable range of airsoft guns

[mimozine]

not sure how much tech changed since i last played, what are the usable ranges of aeg's and snipers these days? wanna set up some targets and see whats what.

thx

 

[ak2m4]

Ranges vary, sure someone will have some proper stats to give you. You're still limited to in-game FPS of 350 for AEG's and 500 for bolt snipers. There's been some some small developments in hop design over the years and you can now buy excellent quality steel tight bore barrels for peanuts.

 

[Sitting Duck]

from my humble noob understandings....

40m to 50m average

80m if you got it set REALLY well

100m very very few really get close to

(over 100m and think are talking more bollocks than me - that is going some I know)

 

[jcheeseright]

Pretty much the same as it's always been. 50-60m reasonably with a decent gun firing at <350, another 20 metres for a well set up gun shooting at ~500

Anyone who claims significantly more is talking shit.

 

[ak2m4]

Sounds about right, any further then you move into lob shot territory and then may as well be playing a game of Worms

 

[Sitting Duck]

100 or so then they are talking in imperial ft no mtrs

or shooting downwards off the cliffs at Dover or something like that

though my m8 got a gun from JBBG and out range everybody - best gun evvvaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh

 

[Aunty Pasty]

Bear in mind that most people measure their range like they measure their knob size.

 

[jcheeseright]

Bear in mind that most people measure their range like they measure their knob size.

it's only 4 inches, but it smells like a foot!

 

[Sitting Duck]

aye but I don't use it as a rule

not enough blood for both of us etc......

 

[Bullet]

With the right gun and the right ammo a sniper WILL do 100m.

 

[Dannn]

My modded g36 running 350 fps on .20 will hit a chest size target at 150' in nil wind 75% of the time.

On fully auto bursts I can drop bb's from above with some success at pushing 200' but that's pot luck doing a second or so burst

But that's not what I'm about...

Bog standard jg bar 10 apart from a modded nub to lift heavier ammo running 400 on .20's

I can shoot same chest size target out to 170 with .30's

90% of the time.

Distances are lazer measured in perfect conditions

 

[proffrink]

I think this has already been said, but 100m is basically unattainable in the UK. A lot of people look overseas where FPS limits can be higher for milsim ops and see people running HPA systems that will reach out that far and then think they can replicate that here. With a 350fps AEG even with a good hop you're probably not going over 60m. A 500fps sniper rifle with the right ammo and a good bucking? You might get close to 100m.

.30s, a good hop and an HPA system is really the only chance you stand of getting a consistent hit at 60m.

Ultimately though it doesn't matter. The sites are quite small here most of the time and 100m engagement distances are rare because any good site owner knows that's beyond the maximum effective range of what everyone is using.

 

[Snakeeyes75]

I think this has already been said, but 100m is basically unattainable in the UK. A lot of people look overseas where FPS limits can be higher for milsim ops and see people running HPA systems that will reach out that far and then think they can replicate that here. With a 350fps AEG even with a good hop you're probably not going over 60m. A 500fps sniper rifle with the right ammo and a good bucking? You might get close to 100m.

.30s, a good hop and an HPA system is really the only chance you stand of getting a consistent hit at 60m.

Ultimately though it doesn't matter. The sites are quite small here most of the time and 100m engagement distances are rare because any good site owner knows that's beyond the maximum effective range of what everyone is using.

Here's where the argument lies.... 100 meters IS achievable BUT.... Joule creep plays a massive part in it! Ask anyone with a decent Tanaka how far they can fire. My Gspec has been through several internal combinations until I've settled with what I have now (For the moment) but at one point it was firing .2's at 498fps and .43's at a whopping 400 fps. With a bit of over hop I was getting 90-100 meters measured but you're essentially talking about a gun that fires at just under 600 fps! Nowadays I'm happy with 70 meters with a 7:10 hit rate! My current chrono readings are 475/340 which is correct for the .43's

 

[Sitting Duck]

I refer to "range" to include accuracy where the gun/shooter's range is on target or pretty damn close

100m with good accuracy - most of the time is not the same getting a bb to reach 100m

the above is a very rare thing to achieve or come close to

if anybody can do that easily then I tip my hat sir

 

[Dannn]

Once I get my bar 10 hpa'd with all the other jazz that'll be going with it shooting at 500 fps ill get the lazer range finder out and get some real world measurements

 

[proffrink]

Here's where the argument lies.... 100 meters IS achievable BUT.... Joule creep plays a massive part in it! Ask anyone with a decent Tanaka how far they can fire. My Gspec has been through several internal combinations until I've settled with what I have now (For the moment) but at one point it was firing .2's at 498fps and .43's at a whopping 400 fps. With a bit of over hop I was getting 90-100 meters measured but you're essentially talking about a gun that fires at just under 600 fps! Nowadays I'm happy with 70 meters with a 7:10 hit rate! My current chrono readings are 475/340 which is correct for the .43's

Agreed. This is exactly why I think sites should make the effort to crono on the weight people will be using rather than .20s all the time.

 

[PT247]

OT but seeing as we going there. I suffer no joule creep worth mentioning on my VSR. FPS is pretty much correct for weight of BB.

 

[proffrink]

Yeh, I can see that happening a lot of the time. My L96 doesn't move much at all, but my M249 does significantly.

 

[K@rl]

Agreed. This is exactly why I think sites should make the effort to crono on the weight people will be using rather than .20s all the time.

They use .20s because then they know the energy transmitted from the projectile. If people where permitted to use there own weight of bb for chrono test then they would need to work out the energy calculation for each possible weight.

If I used ur own ammo for the test it would be very easy to put .4+ in a mid cap. Shoot under 350fps then switch to .20/.25 when the game starts. This would potentially mean u put other players at risk especially if playing cqb where engagement distance are some time measured in inches.

.20 are used because this is the lowest weight most of us use so indicates the max velocity the weapon will shoot at.

I do think however that the hop units should be set to a minimum for the purpose of chrono test. I know what this would mean re setting it after but it's the only way to get a true reading. Especially if ur gun shoots at 349 fps.

 

[jcheeseright]

We're well off topic now but that's a player problem not a rules problem. Having a joule chart for all of the popular weights (or even ALL weights of BB) attached to the site chrono isn't a massive ask, if a player is thought to be attempting to cheat the system they could be asked to have ten of their BBs weighed before loading them into the magazine for chrono, although I agree that is a little heavy handed.

If someone wishes to cheat chrono, it's REALLY easy to do so.