Any ideas what's required to run a one off site?

[Mtemprell]

Does anyone here know what steps are required to run a private game on private land? 

I know the basics like making sure I have liability insurance that covers Airsoft. Restricting public access to the land and providing adequate protection around the site to prevent stray bbs. I am also a fully trained first aider so this is covered. Risk assessment will be carried out before hand and so on. 

I ask as me and a few friends want to organise a one of land on some private land. I have a farmer friend who has kindly offered us to use his unused barn area. It's fully private land with full land owners permission and from my air rifle days I know this is considered ok but not sure for Airsoft and I want to organise it properly as some of my friends might invite their friends so I want to be covered legally incase of any complaints or issues. 

 

[HZR13]

Good Luck, Hope it works out for you and your Friends

 

[Mtemprell]

Good Luck, Hope it works out for you and your Friends

Cheers bud. 

 

[1st commando]

If you aren't running as a commercial venture and are on private land and not charging money you don't actually "need" any of that.  However informing your local police station may be a good idea in case people report the arrival of camo wearing guys in the area

 

[Pseudotectonic]

A carefully written waiver can be useful, if only just to record the participants are informed of and acknowledge the risks involved.

A private game with some friends of friends is really no different than any other game run by an actual commercial site, the only difference is, you are personally liable because you are not a company. (If not covered by your insurance)

Even a one-off event you still should do everything a commercial site would do, set up parameters, clean up the place a bit, remove risks, provide facilities, etc. Make sure the barn is not gonna collapse etc.

 

[Mtemprell]

A carefully written waiver can be useful, if only just to record the participants are informed of and acknowledge the risks involved.

A private game with some friends of friends is really no different than any other game run by an actual commercial site, the only difference is, you are personally liable because you are not a company. (If not covered by your insurance)

Even a one-off event you still should do everything a commercial site would do, set up parameters, clean up the place a bit, remove risks, provide facilities, etc. Make sure the barn is not gonna collapse etc.

Cheers bud. That was my mind set too. I'm not shy of doing risk assessments (do them regularly at work the pain of working as an engineer) so that definitely will be getting done. Luckily I've spoken to people that live nearby the area and all are happy as long as I provide enough cover preventing bbs entering their property so that's a bonus there having the residents on side. 

 

[Gunboat Diplomat]

Definitely second the waiver suggestion.  I’d be wary if the invite was being extended to friends of friends (which essentially counts as complete unknowns in my book).

The last thing you want is to be on the receiving end of a civil case for personal injury when said friend-of-friend wants to launch a case against Mtemprell for loss of an eye etc.

 

[BigStew]

Waivers don't mean shit. Get yourself liability insurance. 

 

[Tommikka]

Risk assessments (and accompanying method statements), waivers and insurance all go together.

An insurer will sell you an off the shelf package, but priced based on their risk assessment of the answers you give them

Check out the series of videos that accompany this part one, it refers to paintball but covers multiple activities and gives the guidance of an insurer who is also a site/event manager.

Bear in mind that blocking BBs from the neighbors is more than a barrier, you need to have distance plus barriers / netting etc - people will have BBs flying over the netting 

Ideally you need to have a buffer zone far enough to exceed BB range, then the net, then play a distance away from the net 

 

[mrfoxhound]

Waivers don't mean shit. Get yourself liability insurance. 

waivers only there to stop general public claiming fraudulent injury claim

 

[Tommikka]

waivers only there to stop general public claiming fraudulent injury claim

Waivers can’t stop a fraudulent claim, they show a signature that there is an understanding of the activity and agreement to comply with instructions 

 

[Colin Allen]

Waivers can’t stop a fraudulent claim, they show a signature that there is an understanding of the activity and agreement to comply with instructions 

Indeed.  Waivers have no impact on potential liability in the event of an accident or injury that was at least in part due to the site’s negligence or recklessness.  Therefore, they also cannot prevent someone making a fraudulent claim.

 

[Pseudotectonic]

ISO 4980:2023 can be useful