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 @EvilMonkee Much better gas usage on semi and can chill fast on full-auto. Seals seem fine though be warned - I almost destroyed one of mine by taking the mag apart. They are well machined and the seals quite thin and uniquely shaped. Seems to retain the gas quite well when not in use but boy...

@RobHedley & @Cromulon1994 I've used one of these Stens and I have to say that my experience is that they shoot more than 30M! The one I had was firing 50-60M easily, though I did lift the barrel and hop out (easy to do) and clean everything in hot, soapy water before use. These  have real...