They are a nice "fun" gun is what I'd call them, maybe a little too short but hey ho. So loud that I reckon enemy can very quickly determine your position quite accurately out in woods - well I knew exactly where my son was and got the jump on him out in woodland - close spaces they can give you an echo headache or get on nerves all day - but they are dinky fun guns to mess about with. Not amazing stuff but sure is fun to use now n then
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avoid - no don't get hc05
slightly slower rof blah blah blah than TT launch models blah blah blah - loud bitch blah blah blah, maybe CM18 blah blah blah avoid ETU blah blah blah - yup thinks that is my new record playing again