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Chock
Chock
Presumably you mean an airsoft Kimber Warrior? in which case there are several makes, kicking about and you can get both springers and gas blowback airsoft Kimbers, so you need to say which model you are considering

M_P
M_P
He probably means the kimber warrior clones of the tm gbbs that are simply branded kimber warrior. They not as bad as the WEs and take standard parts but still, better off with a tm

Chock
Chock
If you are correct about which one he means, i.e. the Gas Blowback K-Warriors (of which there are about four variants) then yes, they are pretty good. I actually have two of them, but I would recommend getting one of the variants with a shorter slide, since they are a bit more gas efficient and fit in holsters better.

Chock
Chock
Be aware however, that a gun designed in 1906 isn't going to outmatch one designed in 1982. The 1911 design dates from an era when guns were literally hand-built; the Glock is from an era where guns are built on modern production lines in large numbers with a good deal of CNC automation. Want a classic? Get a 1911. Want a gun that works reliably? Get a Glock

M_P
M_P
Its an Airsoft gun, real steel information doesn't apply. If anything the TM 1911 design is more reliable than the blocks.

M_P
M_P
Glocks*

Chock
Chock
If airsoft Glocks & 1911s are to look and act like their real counterparts, the design will have a bearing on matters. Quite apart from the straight lines of a Glock making it easier to manufacture to fine tolerances, its slide is light, requiring very little gas from a 9mm round to cycle. Conversely, the 1911's slide is a big lump of metal which needs the copious spare gas from a .45 ACP to drive it backwards. Pretty obvious which will work better as a GBB.

Mack
Mack
As mp said real steel doesn't apply. A 5ku metal slide for TM glocks weighs 100g. A kimber warrior slide for a TM meu weighs 85g

Chock
Chock
A criteria of the Glock 17, was that all parts be fully interchangeable, thus it was designed to be made so that consistent tolerances are easy to maintain during manufacture. Not true of the M1911, which is largely machined from billets of metal, requiring hand-grinding to finish the fit - that is a result of its design. Injection moulding parts of the Glock 17 negates the need for fine tuning. That simplicity of manufacture translates to making accurate replicas easily too.

M_P
M_P
Yeah, chock you're basing all your statements on stuff that isn't really applicable to Airsoft. Tolerances are irrelevant if you buy a decent version, they'll be well made if you buy a good brand. In real life yes the 1911 does have a big heavy slide but Airsoft isn't real, they're all more or less the same weight. So no as none of that is relevant its no pretty obvious or straight forward. The mag size is the 1911s main issue and that's due to the gas reservoir, again...

M_P
M_P
That makes no difference whatsoever in airsoft. You're over thinking it all. They're not even using the same parts as a real one

Chock
Chock
Yes - if you buy a good brand - which is what my first reply asked the OP. We determined that he was probably referring to the K-Warrior Maruzen/TM clones, which have metal slides and many tolerances which are way slacker than they should be because the 1911's shape does not allow accurate moulding without using expensive sliding mould technology, because the real thing's parts are milled when produced in metal. The simpler shape and plastic materials of the Glock makes that less of...

Chock
Chock
...an issue, as it does with the real thing

M_P
M_P
The parts that matter though are simple shapes, as simple as each other practically. The materials is a minor issue, making the runners for a slide is simple right angles on the frame, plastic or metal its not a big challenge. Slides are both metal so again same thing.

You're making out like making a 1911 is a huge design problem because its old but in Airsoft the designs are practically the same for the slide internals which is where it matters. The externals are more conplex on th...

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