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I'm new to the forum! I have previously had many gas/C02 airguns in the past, however now I've decided to get back into 'airsofting' and have decided to go for my first AEG. I would really appreciate a bit of advice as I'm stumped about a few key things!

I have looked at the Umarex Heckler & Koch UMP Sportsline.

This is obviously a cheaper gun in comparison, however I'm unsure if I'll fully get back into it so can't justify spending over £130 at the moment.

I have a few questions relating to batteries and 'smart chargers', do batteries come with a standard size connector or do some vary? As i was thinking about buying a larger power supply such as 1600. I know the UMP takes stick batteries so would the majority standard sticks work with this?

Also smart chargers are doing my head in! I've contacted a few airsoft companies and none of them give me a straight answer. Which smart charger would be the best for the gun I am thinking of above, and would I need any adapters to connect the batteries?

Thanks for any replies, it would help me out!!

If any one could point out a better gun for around £100 - £130 including necessary accessories and two tone, that would also be appreciated!

 
I know exactly how you feel, I just bought my first AEG, and I ended up buying a 7.4 volt Lipo, after lots of different sites had conflicting information and the manufacturer's site was unhelpful, when it arrived it says 9.6 (non lipo) on the box.

I found this helpful:

youtube.com/watch?v=iTBWcBe8rJ4

 
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Sacarathe said:
I know exactly how you feel, I just bought my first AEG, and I ended up buying a 7.4 volt Lipo, after lots of different sites had conflicting information and the manufacturer's site was unhelpful, when it arrived it says 9.6 (non lipo) on the box.

I found this helpful:

youtube.com/watch?v=iTBWcBe8rJ4
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Thanks for the reply! It's such a minefield for newcomers to AEG's. Do you use a smart charger? If so what connector does it have? I'm still not really any closer to making full sense haha!

 
I bought a charger, but I have not used it yet, sorry.

No point (for me, as I know little too) until a day or so before the skirmish.

 
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Assume that most guns/batteries/chargers have mini Tamiya connectors unless it says otherwise. The smart charger you use depends on the battery so here's some stuff:

Nimh:

Slower trigger response and rof but if they go dead unlike a lipo you recharge them and use them again no problem.

Would say don't use anything lower than a 9.4v.

Selection of 9.6 Nimh's: http://www.landwarriorairsoft.com/batteries-bbs-gas-chronographs-c5/batteries-c62/we-airsoft-europe-m167/9-6v-t426

And charger for them: http://www.landwarriorairsoft.com/batteries-bbs-gas-chronographs-c5/chargers-c141/we-airsoft-europe-we-europe-n3-nimh-battery-charger-p3512

Lipo:

Faster trigger response and rof but once they go dead they're dead forever.

I would say only only use a 7.4v no higher unless you have an active braking mosfet

Selection of 7.4 lipo's: http://www.landwarriorairsoft.com/batteries-bbs-gas-chronographs-c5/batteries-c62/we-airsoft-europe-m167/7-4v-t424

Chargers (would recommend the more expensive one as its a lot better but if you can't stretch to £50 go for the cheaper one): http://www.landwarriorairsoft.com/batteries-bbs-gas-chronographs-c5/chargers-c141/lipo-battery-charger-t430

 
Np remember when I was there myself. Also if you go for a lipo make sure you have it on a fire proof surface away from anything that could combust and keep an eye on it (same for Nimh but not as important but still should just its more important with lipo's as they like to go out with a bang, but 99.9% of people don't have any problems but better to be safe than sorry) and get a lipo alarm to make sure you take them out before they're fully dead.

In regard to your other question generally g&g combat machines are the go to beginner gun because there's more parts, tutorials, accessories etc. for them. If you could possibly stretch to it I'd go for the g&g umg as they've got the standard from g&g (magical internals and good reliability) but the trade off is price (£200 new and about the same second hand with loads of mags and stuff)

 
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Thats helpful! I only went with the cheaper charger as I don't plan to buy any more AEGS.

 
Space have you got a ukara ? going to get one ? Or are you a minor ? Because there's a second hand g&g umg on the z1 forums that has everything you'll need except a charger http://forums.zeroin.co.uk/showthread.php?260545-G-amp-G-UMP-Like-New-6-Mags but if you haven't got ukara generally people are quite snobby about two toning guns. If you go for it make sure to ask wether the battery's a lipo or Nimh before buying a charger. I would make an offer of about £180 then when he says no go to £190 but I don't have the money.

 
Aengus said:
In regard to your other question generally g&g combat machines are the go to beginner gun because there's more parts, tutorials, accessories etc. for them. If you could possibly stretch to it I'd go for the g&g umg as they've got the standard from g&g (magical internals and good reliability) but the trade off is price (£200 new and about the same second hand with loads of mags and stuff)
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G&G's are good beginners guns because they are cheap and pretty simple. Nothing else is special certainly dont have magic internals (thats TM) its all pot metal and cheese alloy. Better than most chinese guns but not great.
 
Lozart said:
You ARE joking, right?
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What exactly is the problem?

If something goes wrong and I need to do something about it, a frying pan is a perfect way to move the battery into the kitchen (where there are 2 fire extinguishers and 4 fire blankets and 3 windows).

I mean obviously if it 'combusted' it wouldn't matter what it was in (I would have bought a safety bag - but I cannot discern the fakes). But if it just malfunctioned in a minor way, I could move it.

It's been charging nearly 3 hours and I've not been less than 1m from it the whole time, I'm not irresponsible.

 
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Sacarathe said:
What exactly is the problem?

If something goes wrong and I need to do something about it, a frying pan is a perfect way to move the battery into the kitchen (where there are 2 fire extinguishers and 4 fire blankets and 3 windows).

I mean obviously if it 'combusted' it wouldn't matter what it was in (I would have bought a safety bag - but I cannot discern the fakes). But if it just malfunctioned in a minor way, I could move it.

It's been charging nearly 3 hours and I've not been less than 1m from it the whole time, I'm not irresponsible.
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View attachment 16461Might want one of these as well.

 
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Sacarathe said:
What exactly is the problem?

If something goes wrong and I need to do something about it, a frying pan is a perfect way to move the battery into the kitchen (where there are 2 fire extinguishers and 4 fire blankets and 3 windows).

I mean obviously if it 'combusted' it wouldn't matter what it was in (I would have bought a safety bag - but I cannot discern the fakes). But if it just malfunctioned in a minor way, I could move it.

It's been charging nearly 3 hours and I've not been less than 1m from it the whole time, I'm not irresponsible.
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There's a huge difference between being irresponsible and being over cautious though. Lipo batteries don't spontaneously combust for shits and giggles. Do you charge your phone in a frying pan? Didn't think so...

 
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