Bullpup AEG?

[Hoozy]

Thankfully I didn’t lose or break anything  :lol:

Just ordered a 2-7x scope, if I don’t like it I can always stick my old trusty red dot on!

JG Au-4G

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[Hoozy]

I got a ‘vp racing battery’ it’s a 1600mAh 8.4V Ni-MH. 

Worked like a dream, the range and accuracy really surprised me. Too used to a beat up old Cyma m4 

I also bought a foregrip, not realising it came with a better quality one in the box!

Patrol Base tested it before they sent it and said it’s at 320fps, but when I tested it myself it’s at 280 fps.. not sure what that’s about.. 

I understand what you mean about how noisy these guns are now!!

 

[Iceni]

It's the same model as my ASG A3 sportsline.

Check the body nut and bolts.

The one on the magwell needs a dab of blue threadlock, That screw doesn't want to be tight because it  will stop the mag release working. So the threadlock is to stop the bolt and nut falling out after multiple mag releases!

The other 2 bolts at the rear of the stock can be done to a reasonable tightness, or you can blue threadlock them. Just be aware the bottom screw needs to be removed sometimes to help getting the gearbox out.

Lube the trigger plate. Its easy to get to when you split the body. A couple of dabs of oil under the sliding plate, and give the trigger a good 50 pulls, then wipe it off. It'll make the trigger nicer.
Don't remove the plate thinking it will be easier to oil! As there are 2 springs, and 2 ball bearings that will come flying at your face and those parts are hard to find when they go flying, and need 6 pairs of hands to get back in!

Did you use .25g BB's? That would account for the FPS difference. The stock 320fps would have been with 0.2g BB's

Yeah damn noisy! But once it's ready for upgrades after a year or so you can invest in making it silent! And then they shine!

 

[Hoozy]

Bolts and screws all seem exactly as you suggested! 

I will have to lube the trigger though because it is pretty stiff. What lubrication would work? Just wd-40 or something like a mineral oil? 

Both tests were with .2g BB’s, i’ll get it tested again this Sunday with a chrono I trust more  

 

[Iceni]

Light oil would be fine, I have some silicone/ptfe combo oil I got from ebay that does mine rather well It's not expensive either.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FINE-SYNTHETIC-LUBRICATING-OIL-WITH-PTFE-100-ml/391998802450?epid=1540365687&hash=item5b44f30a12:g:vBcAAOSwrPZZxsWG

As for the FPS, get it tested again first. If it's still low contact patrol base but make sure the BB's are correct at chrono. I've never bought from them so I don't know how they will act in this situation. There's no point speculating until you have the figures. If it's shooting well then at least you know you will have a good days shoot regardless.
 

 

[Hoozy]

Just got home from the first big outdoor game with the AUG and I’m really disappointed. 

Chrono’d in at 270fps with .20s.

Range and accuracy was nowhere near as good as my stock Cyma £100 m4 plastic thing. 

Bb’s fall inside the body and rattle around all day. And the trigger kept jamming.

Might be getting sent back unfortunetly..

 

[Gepard]

If you can stretch your budget there's an ICS L85 being sold for £260 in the classified section. It's a very good out of the box bullpup. 

 

[Iceni]

Just got home from the first big outdoor game with the AUG and I’m really disappointed. 

Chrono’d in at 270fps with .20s.

Range and accuracy was nowhere near as good as my stock Cyma £100 m4 plastic thing. 

Bb’s fall inside the body and rattle around all day. And the trigger kept jamming.

Might be getting sent back unfortunetly..

Stock aug's usually have good stock range and decent accuracy out of the box.

I'm wondering up you got some older stock or a returned gun. Out of the box JG augs normally shoot at 330-360 fps new.

You might also have an airseal problem. It was split and put back together by yourself, So if there's a problem there you might have caused it. The plastic ring on the front of the hop if not correctly installed will cause a lot of problems. It may also have a simple problem like a split bucking. It's one of the reasons I steered you away from second hand, The system is simple but it has to be put together carefully because everything floats a little.

The BB's getting into the body is only a problem if you do slow mag changes or change mags with the gun up or at an angle, It's caused because there are always a few BB's in the feed tube even on an empty mag. If your changes are done at an angle, or slowly it gives those BB's chance to roll out into the upper part of the magwell then they drop in the body. There are other ways to stop it as well like adding some card plates over the larger magwell holes. I've not had BB's in the body for a long time. Clearing BB's is done by splitting the gun, inverting the body and shaking. It sounds to me like you split the gun with a mag in, and filled the body with BB's.

Trigger sticking. That is an odd one. The aug trigger is just a bar on a spring, that pushes on normal trigger on the gearbox. Never seen one lock up. You might of trapped a BB in the mechanism.

 

[Hoozy]

Without knowing a great deal about the internals of these, if I split the gun and look into the stock side, where the inner barrel ends there is another black barrel type thing around it, the end of this black barrel is slightly deformed. Could this be the cause? Attached a photo for reference.

If not, could you suggest some things to try/check before I email Patrolbase and do a winge 

Edit: This is the first time i’ve split the gun since I had the issue of putting it back together.

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[Iceni]

It's got no airseal nozzle.... None at all!!!!

Did a tube fall out of it, or did it crunch at any point?

I suspect this is a factory mistake, Show them that picture.


What you are looking at there.

Orange - hop adjust/Brass eject baffles

Green - gearbox

Blue - Magwell plate, and Mag feed tube

Pink - Splitting pin slides

Yellow - Trigger bar

Red - .... Red


Well red should have an airseal nozzle, It should be poking out 24.7mm.

What you can actually see is the tappet plate (black) and the screw that holds the piston in place (don't touch it).

 

[Hoozy]

Nothing fell out or crunched at any point, I was especially careful as I was really looking forward to this gun! 

That does explain the lack of FPS I would think 

Thanks, I’ll contact them tomorrow!

 

[Iceni]

It explains everything in regard to:

0 accuracy, Poor FPS, And perhaps even a few BB's getting into the body.

Get them called up and tell them it's a manufacturer fault, Show the pictures, Ask for a new gun shipped and that one to be collected at the same time in exchange. Don't let them offer a repair. You paid for new, not tinkered with.

 

[Hoozy]

I’ll be ringing them at lunch today, i’ll update later!

 

[Iceni]

If they haven't got another one in stock and offer a repair ask for this part to be fitted. Aug airseal nozzles can be a bit funny in terms of variable lengths, but this one is right.

http://www.patrolbase.co.uk/airsoft-piston-piston-cylinder-heads/asg-ultimate-aug-series-air-nozzle.htm#.Wri3y3_TVes


 

Also since they now have to open the gearbox to do work, I would ask if they can do some upgrades.

Ask for the gearbox to be correctly shimmed,
and for the plastic bushing to be replaced by metal ones at your cost.

They have the correct bushings for £7

http://www.patrolbase.co.uk/airsoft-gears-gearbox/keen-sharp-bushing-set-7mm.htm#.Wri5a3_TVes

 

Also expect them to chrono the gun to 340fps. Request this, They have to open the gearbox to tinker, you expect the gun will come back at the correct factory spec.

I would also enquire about a metal spring guide, And silent head set. Not essential items, but they would improve the lifespan, and reduce noise a little. They might not have a silent head set in stock if they don't it's not going to be a problem.
 

 

[Hoozy]

So I’ve just rang and the bloke on the phone was nice and polite about it. He said it was very odd and to send it back for a full refund  :lol:

 

[Asomodai]

So I’ve just rang and the bloke on the phone was nice and polite about it. He said it was very odd and to send it back for a full refund  :lol:

If you are still looking, Pro airsoft supplies are blowing out TM AUG High Cycles for £225, the best AUG AEG on the market. 

 

[Hoozy]

If you are still looking, Pro airsoft supplies are blowing out TM AUG High Cycles for £225, the best AUG AEG on the market. 

Thanks man, but this experience has completely put me off them 

Gonna go for a CM16 Raider 2.0 as soon as the refund comes through.

 

[steakandpotato]

Thanks man, but this experience has completely put me off them 

Gonna go for a CM16 Raider 2.0 as soon as the refund comes through.

It's a different brand and TM's are usually solid. That said though, a lot of people don't really get on with bullpup's and even if they do, it takes a while so the CM16 is a safer bet.

 

[Albiscuit]

Raider over a TM???? 

As much as I hate bullpups that AUG pro has on sale looks pretty flipping decent!

 

[steakandpotato]

Raider over a TM???? 

As much as I hate bullpups that AUG pro has on sale looks pretty flipping decent!

He stated he's had an experience that put him off Bullpup's, hence me suggesting the CM16