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Losing UKARA due to no skirmishes (Covid-19)


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Lets face it we all know of sites which are relaxed with the rules or know our shops well enough that even with an expired UKARA we can still buy guns. 

 

And I cant speak for everyone but the last thing on my mind when this is over is will I be able to buy RIFs or not, but that might just be me. 

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if you are that concerned hen sure ly the best result is to after this is banned to buy what you are after off your local, if a regular skirmisher there they will know you and validate the sale. helps them with thir income etc. maintaining a record to go elsewhere and buy cheaper isnt going to be the most useful to what will be struggling shops. ( where they can get what you want) lets all jus hope that the rules can now be followed in such a way that this ends as quickly and safely as possible. 

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We're doing Covid-19 contingency planning at work. Currently very hard to predict how long the situation will last - literally nobody knows for sure.

 

Estimates range anywhere from 6-18 months (that's not the lockdown period, just how long the pandemic in general may last). Bear in mind that pandemic flu tends to come in three waves or 'peaks'. An initial peak (which we're seeing now), a second much higher/worse peak predicted this winter, and a third peak around the same time next year. This timeframe is all dependent on whether the virus mutates and is able to reinfect people thought to have immunity (as pretty much all flu-like viruses tend to do... unfortunately).

 

Implications for airsoft and UKARA: I imagine we won't be regularly skirmishing for a good while yet 😕

 

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I agree we won't be airsofting any time soon and yes people will lose their UKARA.  In the big scheme of things it's does not matter.... A curve ball has been thrown at the whole world... and people are loosing their lives.... that's what matters... nothing else!

 

As long as people continue to adhere to the social distancing rules that will stop the spread and the sooner the situation can be mitigated. Stay safe folks, stay at home... that's what will save lives and hopefully allow the norm to return. What that norm will look like and become who knows.... 

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6 minutes ago, emilianoksa said:

If the lock down continues for another month, a lot of shops and venues will go to the wall and  most of us will no longer have the !money to spend on toy guns.

Yeah. I really worry for Airsoft. This is something which could - depending on the lockdown, how it changes, whether it ends - kill most airsoft sites. 

 

I get it, other things are important. Airsoft is too though. 

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I can see an extended lockdown killing a lot of the smaller or newer suppliers and sites. The bigger ones will hopefully survive.

 

Assuming this pretty dire situation pans out we can expect to see a lot of new small businesses springing up to fill the void once the lockdown ends, some of which will be good and grow some bad and won’t last long. On that basis it will be more like Airsoft in the 90s when I first started playing with a much more fragmented market with fewer established retailers, the only difference is the guns will be better as technology doesn’t go backwards.

 

In this regard I don’t see Airsoft as any different from any other specialist luxury good.

 

The worst case would be a couple of manufacturers go to the wall and competition will be reduced and prices go up. I wouldn’t like to go back to 90s prices when a polymer bodied AR was £350......

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9 minutes ago, ak2m4 said:

found out yesterday that 1 of my Chinese suppliers have or will be going bankrupt - difficult to get any info at the moment but I've already been in contact with a Chinese legal firm in order to see what money I can get back.  It's a nasty situation indeed

Sorry to hear that, Hopefully you can get your money back and continue to trade without any issues or disruptions to your catalogue.

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interesting to see the theory that this was Chinese designed growing momentum. if there is any truth to that it could end up with at least sanctions on Chinese imports so increased prices/ delays. if so, wonder if that would cause more company to pop up/ more realistic to be able to make more closer to home specially with the growing 3d printer market... 

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2 hours ago, remus said:

interesting to see the theory that this was Chinese designed growing momentum. if there is any truth to that it could end up with at least sanctions on Chinese imports so increased prices/ delays. if so, wonder if that would cause more company to pop up/ more realistic to be able to make more closer to home specially with the growing 3d printer market... 

 

Yeah, that and the fat dude in the red suit invented Christmas to sell his toys. There is no growing momentum 😂😂😂

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  • 1 month later...
On 22/03/2020 at 16:04, Philby21 said:

Very glad I got my site renewal in today.  First game back in six months and now probably the last for quite a while.

 

1 hour ago, Lucifer656 said:

Very glad I got my site renewal in today.  First game back in six months and now probably the last for quite a while.

 

 

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Well, we all are just going to have to wait.  I spoke to my local site and they updated my UKARA for me, been a regular there for some length of time.  I'm not going airsofting for some time as I want to see how it plays out.  I'm hoping that I will be wrong (I am no scientist) but the way it is going with people doing their own thing could bring about a second wave.  I express that I am desperate to airsoft, like so many of you are but just be sensible and let this all, pass.

 

Stay safe everyone!

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Just been told by the HSE that all First Aid at Work  certificates are being extended for three months because of lockdown. Surely UKARA can do the same?

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1 hour ago, John_W said:

Just been told by the HSE that all First Aid at Work  certificates are being extended for three months because of lockdown. Surely UKARA can do the same?

UKARA could do the same ... but its up to them.  The scheme being an optional method to document a buyers status.   Some sites are extending membership etc.

For airsofters the worst that could happen is they have to repeat the qualifying before they can buy new RIFs.

 

 

However, First Aid at Work certification is a legal requirement in the workplace.  Without an extension a business could be prevented from operating just because First Aiders can't get recertified.

 

Have they stated that all certificates are being extended?  Last weeks HSE  update was that extensions may be possible, but with other measures listed such as sharing first aiders.

Todays update from St Johns is still pretty much the same.... It could be necessary (if asked) to show what effort has been taken to access recertification.

(.... and possibly the update stating 3 months is a reduction to the extension which was 30 September, unless its a 3 month rolling extension, as if your certificate expires in June you may still be affected by the knockon effect of new courses being overbooked?)

 

https://www.hse.gov.uk/news/first-aid-certificate-coronavirus.htm#

https://www.sja.org.uk/course-information/covid-19/#HSE statement

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