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Speaking for yourself... I've seen some fairly decent sized titties in the safe zones a few times... on blokes though. 😕

I think it's a tricky one.   I do see airsoft becoming more acceptable and less niche, and whilst yes there is a sea of m4's and multicam out there you can still find plenty of folk who want

I only started in 2012/2013   I blame call of duty and it's decent into wankness. Seriously.    This is the obsession with m4s and "new" models that have just had some selectors an

19 minutes ago, Dentonboy said:

Ok, so my question is, has Airsoft peaked already, or are we building up to the pinnacle still?

 

I would argue that we're over the peak. I think around 2005/6 was the best I can remember it for Airsoft. The VCRA Bill was yet to pass and ACM AEGs were yet to truly drop and flood the market.

 

Most AEGs were on a level playing field and TM GBBs were starting to get reliable and consistent (or at least,cwhat I could see).

 

King Arms were dropping FN FALs, Classic Army destroyed STAR M249 owners' hearts with their M249 and Marui launched their incredible M14 series. AUGs and FAMAS' were exotic and everyone had an MP5...

 

MultiCam was new and exotic and Flecktarn pretty much ruled the roost. UCP was both a pattern to mock but also to look Gucci AF in.

 

Pre-2005, I knew Airsoft as TM springers, NBB gas guns and long guns with airlines attached. Places like Battle Orders released incredibly glossy catalogues filled with 'film weapons'.

 

Post 2006, it is all a bit, well, M4 shaped. Yes, blow-back and GBBR has arrived, but I miss sites like Guys N Guns 2,  Den Trinity and UN Company stocking allsorts of exotic brands at decent £/$ prices. I feel like there has been a bit of a regression.

 

MultiCam is now everywhere, with MTP and a dozen lookalike patterns adding to the blend. 

 

Or perhaps I am just an old git who misses those simpler times.

 

Maybe we should organise an old school private day for AFUK. No M4's or Multicam allowed! 

 

 

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27 minutes ago, Tackle said:

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I miss sites having websites too, instead of shitty Facebook that most seem to rely upon now, having to trawl through all the sewage just to find the small bit of info I need is enough to put me off going.

 

Absolutely this. If a site doesn't have a legit website, I won't give them my custom. There's no way I'm signing up to Facebook just because site owners are too lazy to cobble together a legit website.

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18 minutes ago, MAX DICKER said:

 

Absolutely this. If a site doesn't have a legit website, I won't give them my custom. There's no way I'm signing up to Facebook just because site owners are too lazy to cobble together a legit website.

 

What an odd thing to write off a site for. 

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1 hour ago, Tackle said:

sites gave you the unbiased opportunity to shoot each,

without sales pitches disguised as 45 minute briefings

what do you mean around these two points?

 

I haven't played a year yet so I can't really contribute to the discussion but it's an interesting read.

 

 

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2005/2006 was pretty sweet.  I seem to recall it was $2 to the £ which made stuff pretty cheap.  Loads of cheap ACM stuff coming on to the scene from 2006/2007.  Going back a bit further, 2000/2001 I was still at school and we could freely peruse the likes of Airsoft Dynamics and ogle at the various AEGs.  I remember when the teasers came out for the TM G36C which of course everyone thought was super cool when we were messing with TM springers and TM Steyr NBBs.

 

Sure, there's loads of M4s about now but when you consider what is also available, the sheer number of different models, it's mind blowing.  Not to mention the advancements in tech, MOSFETs, TM NGRS, GBB, HPA, etc.  I think we're yet to peak tbh. 

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I think for as long as FB is dominant for Airsoft chat now, we're probably past peak community - Things feel very ephemeral, anything/anyone intensely popular will drown discussion out and FB algorithms determine what you see. Bad UX, hard to find old content etc..

 

From a tech and variety side I'd disagree, as Hitman said - I think the various exchange rates getting worse for us has definitely put a damper on the fun stuff you see being imported though, UK stores don't seem to go for brands which might otherwise be worth their time to bring in.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Musica said:

what do you mean around these two points?

 

Sites that use the alleged safety briefing to promote site membership/ukasa/future events yada yada yada, if I've turned up on X date, prob travelled a considerable distance, & I'm spending my hard earned to be there, I want a proper briefing & then I want to play, I'm not there to make friends or financial commitments, nor do I want to hear the owners "interesting anecdotes (cos usually their not).

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6 hours ago, Tackle said:

Sites that use the alleged safety briefing to promote site membership/ukasa/future events yada yada yada, if I've turned up on X date, prob travelled a considerable distance, & I'm spending my hard earned to be there, I want a proper briefing & then I want to play, I'm not there to make friends or financial commitments, nor do I want to hear the owners "interesting anecdotes (cos usually their not).

 

Spot on.

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7 hours ago, Tackle said:

Sites that use the alleged safety briefing to promote site membership/ukasa/future events yada yada yada, if I've turned up on X date, prob travelled a considerable distance, & I'm spending my hard earned to be there, I want a proper briefing & then I want to play, I'm not there to make friends or financial commitments, nor do I want to hear the owners "interesting anecdotes (cos usually their not).

 

Agreed 

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Guys N Guns is still going they just dont have a website or export anymore.  Which is a shame as they had some lovely pieces when I was in HK back in 2017

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2 minutes ago, Cromulon1994 said:

 

Go to a site with an uzi, or a mac, noone under 25 knows what it is.

HaHa, I had this, used my M14 socom (the short one) on a site recently, bout 4 times I was asked "what sniper rifles that" 😂

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29 minutes ago, Cromulon1994 said:

 

 

There's the technology and the companies out there to make some really nice stuff but it's more profitable to sell tatted up reheated crap. I would love a North East gbb sten but no UK supplier kills it for me. 

 

 Airsoft World I believe are stocking them.  Though judging by the shooting test neo365 did on YT (French WW2 dude) they look pretty meh.

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32 minutes ago, Cromulon1994 said:

There's an obsession with winning, and if they come with that mindset they miss the point.

 

absolutely, it's rare i even pay attention to who won or lost a game, and frankly a good fallback game where you put in a good fight all the way till the end can be more rewarding than a "winning" a team death match.

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Its better then its ever been. Back in 2005/6 if you wanted a decent full metal AR you could choose between CA, ICS, G&P...maybe G&G. There is an insane amount of choice and new tech now and you get more bang for your buck with guns and gear.

 

But mostly there's more and cooler places to skirmish at nowadays. 

 

More interesting is the rise and fall of milsim organisers but maybe thats for another time.

 

Also worth pointing out that call of duty 4: MW came out in 2007!!

 

I think the kicker for people getting bored with the hobby is the adage 'the more things change the more they stay the same'. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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25 minutes ago, Adolf Hamster said:

absolutely, it's rare i even pay attention to who won or lost a game, and frankly a good fallback game where you put in a good fight all the way till the end can be more rewarding than a "winning" a team death match.

While I see both sides there are plenty of shit players who are only playing to shoot people and don't care about the objective in the games.

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Maybe this is me being grumpy, but there seem to be more thick c***s in airsoft than ever.

 

People incapable of thinking for themselves, or just generally being absolute drips. 

 

Maybe that's just society as a whole, critical thinking isn't that popular anymore.

 

Maybe I need a coffee.

 

 

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44 minutes ago, Musica said:

While I see both sides there are plenty of shit players who are only playing to shoot people and don't care about the objective in the games.

 

this is true, and i suppose to some extent maybe i am one of those players, but at the same time tying down the opposition can be just as effective a tactic as rushing to the objective. tbh i'd say it takes both. i've played games where due to a lack of non-objective focused players we could easily flank round the side and wipe out the entire team from behind.

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The range of choice of guns now is huge and definitely the biggest it's ever been.  As mentioned you also get far better stuff in that gun now for your ~£300-350 than you did a decade ago.

 

MTP/MC are literally just the new DPM.  When I started in 06 absolutely everyone was in DPM, if anything it was more ubiquitous than multi-patterns are now.  As per the gun thing, the range of uniforms and rigs you have to choose from now at every conceivable price level from hundreds and hundreds of retailers around the world is staggering compared to 12 or so years ago.  The boom in the 'tactical' market started somewhere around the invasions of afghan and iraq and grew at a truly crazy rate for over 15 years and is only just now starting to plateau.

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6 minutes ago, TheFull9 said:

MTP/MC are literally just the new DPM.  When I started in 06 absolutely everyone was in DPM, if anything it was more ubiquitous than multi-patterns are now.  

Spot on, when I first went airsofting, in about 2006/07 it was a sea of DPM, L85s and M4s. Now it's M4s, but covered in tacticool shit.

 

I'd say without a doubt the rise of YouTube, and access to that as a resource of special forces weaponry/kit has ultimately given us the airsoft landscape we have now.

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22 minutes ago, Sawyer said:

Maybe this is me being grumpy, but there seem to be more thick c***s in airsoft than ever.

 

People incapable of thinking for themselves, or just generally being absolute drips. 

 

Maybe that's just society as a whole, critical thinking isn't that popular anymore.

 

Maybe I need a coffee.

 

 

 

Agree with this, the lack of awareness of what/who is around you is unreal. Just yesterday my mate (who only uses a sniper) had at least a dozen very near (matter of inches) misses from people just walking in front of him. 

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