samsimsom Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Hello, Iam very sorry, i am not a airsofter but i am a character designer and i started a new 3D model. But im stuck some items name for referace. i added attacment and marked red and blue line. i dont know whats puspuse and item names, thank you for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostly Retired Moderators L3wisD Posted February 28, 2019 Mostly Retired Moderators Share Posted February 28, 2019 That just looks like the hydration tube going from the camelback. It's been threaded through the straps of the soldier's plate carrier (vest) by the look of it. He's got a different gun in each picture, but the one circled in blue could just be any CQB (Short) M4, the butt stock style on that gun is called a "Tanker stock" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin proffrink Posted February 28, 2019 Root Admin Share Posted February 28, 2019 Fyi, a Camelbak is a brand name of hydration pouch. Basically it's just a water bottle but it sits flat. It's one of these: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clumpyedge Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, samsimsom said: Hello, Iam very sorry, i am not a airsofter but i am a character designer and i started a new 3D model. But im stuck some items name for referace. i added attacment and marked red and blue line. i dont know whats puspuse and item names, thank you for your help Gun circled in blue looks to be a 416c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsimsom Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 Thank you very much, this information will be very useful to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostly Retired Moderators L3wisD Posted February 28, 2019 Mostly Retired Moderators Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, samsimsom said: Thank you very much, this information will be very useful to me No problem. If you ever need high-res or close up shots of certain guns or bits of kit, I'm sure everyone here would be happy to share some clear photos for you to use as reference etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsimsom Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 I'm so glad to hear that. I wanted to share the model I've done so far. This is only starting base sculpt. I want to produce a realistic model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted February 28, 2019 Supporters Share Posted February 28, 2019 Initial observation - the three magazine pouches at the front of the vest are too long and the top is too close to the admin pouch on the chest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkee Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Also, are you modelling a 'real' SF soldier or an airsofter. A real soldier would have no need for lower face protection other than to hide their identity in which case some form of snood/balaclava would probably be worn. Looks currently like your model has rigid mesh face protection on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsimsom Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 Thank you so much for observations and proposal. @Lozart and @EvilMonkee i want to modelling airsofter. I am in the decision phase in this model. at this stage, a lot of things will change and reposition on the character. I'm thinking about taking your suggestions and making changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted February 28, 2019 Supporters Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, samsimsom said: Thank you so much for observations and proposal. @Lozart and @EvilMonkee i want to modelling airsofter. I am in the decision phase in this model. at this stage, a lot of things will change and reposition on the character. I'm thinking about taking your suggestions and making changes. Worth having a look at some of the Ghost Recon 3d models for spacing and layout https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GCEU_enGB820GB820&biw=1920&bih=945&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=Scd3XNrvAeO61fAPnMmB8As&q=ghost+recon+3d+model&oq=ghost+recon+3d+model&gs_l=img.3...16814.17811..18010...0.0..0.49.93.2......1....1..gws-wiz-img.IpLcTHAphCA#imgrc=_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clumpyedge Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 25 minutes ago, EvilMonkee said: Also, are you modelling a 'real' SF soldier or an airsofter. A real soldier would have no need for lower face protection other than to hide their identity in which case some form of snood/balaclava would probably be worn. Looks currently like your model has rigid mesh face protection on. FYI UKSF have used mesh lowers for a while and not just for hiding identities or so I'm led to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtTalbert Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, clumpyedge said: FYI UKSF have used mesh lowers for a while and not just for hiding identities or so I'm led to believe. Wasn't that due to using Simunition rounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clumpyedge Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, SgtTalbert said: Wasn't that due to using Simunition rounds? No they were seen using them on the ground in the Manchester raids and a few other places, I've asked a friend if he has details on why they would use them over snoods so I'll wait to see what he says. I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure there is a reason they were using them over snoods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtTalbert Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, clumpyedge said: No they were seen using them on the ground in the Manchester raids and a few other places, I've asked a friend if he has details on why they would use them over snoods so I'll wait to see what he says. I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure there is a reason they were using them over snoods. Potential protection 'debris' or 'richochets' or maybe, just maybe, they were actual airsofters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clumpyedge Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, SgtTalbert said: Potential protection 'debris' or 'richochets' or maybe, just maybe, they were actual airsofters... From what I have read its for debris protection like you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtTalbert Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, clumpyedge said: From what I have read its for debris protection like you say. Excellent, mesh masks are now a valid look at Milsims...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clumpyedge Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, SgtTalbert said: Excellent, mesh masks are now a valid look at Milsims...lol Ive not known places to stop you using plain ones but having said that I wouldn't be surprised if you rocked up wearing one with a joker smile or some shit on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtTalbert Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 56 minutes ago, clumpyedge said: Ive not known places to stop you using plain ones but having said that I wouldn't be surprised if you rocked up wearing one with a joker smile or some shit on it. Oh no, I've not been to an event where you're not allowed BUT most 'milsimers' say it 'takes away' from the realism. I myself normally wear a snood with small mesh underneath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clumpyedge Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, SgtTalbert said: Oh no, I've not been to an event where you're not allowed BUT most 'milsimers' say it 'takes away' from the realism. I myself normally wear a snood with small mesh underneath Same mate, just an FYI seems we are both right on the lower face pro assumption as to why they use it. both persec/simunition and a mixture of other things! Good to learn something new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albiscuit Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, SgtTalbert said: Excellent, mesh masks are now a valid look at Milsims...lol Saw a 'Urban streetwear' store in london the other week with a dummy in the window with a LA Style vest and mesh mask on, so expect you tube drill rappers and then the local park hoodies / roadmen to be looking like skirmishers within the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtTalbert Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, Albiscuit said: Saw a 'Urban streetwear' store in london the other week with a dummy in the window with a LA Style vest and mesh mask on, so expect you tube drill rappers and then the local park hoodies / roadmen to be looking like skirmishers within the year Sounds like we're getting closer to The Purge every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulpiness Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, clumpyedge said: From what I have read its for debris protection like you say. Likely to protect from a comrade's brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtTalbert Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Vulpiness said: Likely to protect from a comrade's brass. If they are shooting that close, outside the the 2-3 seconds around breaching. There is an issue in my mind. One sweep of enemy gunfire, grenade, even, tripping due to be so close is a big problem. Just think in airsoft when people cluster in a doorway and/or room - in real world, brass would be the least of my concerns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulpiness Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, SgtTalbert said: If they are shooting that close, outside the the 2-3 seconds around breaching. There is an issue in my mind. One sweep of enemy gunfire, grenade, even, tripping due to be so close is a big problem. Just think in airsoft when people cluster in a doorway and/or room - in real world, brass would be the least of my concerns If you get hit in the face by brass, you flinch, it distracts you, and in such a situation, it's something you can ill afford. Also brass goes a long fucking way dude. 10 feet sometimes, you don't have to be less than a meter away, it'll go all the way across a room sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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