GOODS Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Hi guys and girls, I have recently purchased my first gun = G&G 13.5" wildhog. I have so far had the following upgrades; spring r hop seals angle of engagement I tend to use semi-automatic most of the time and find myself in positions that are a slightly out of range. After doing some research and speaking to fellow airsofters at events i was thinking about converting my gun to a DMR. The shop who have been carrying-out my upgrade works have said it is now illegal to do so? Even if they lock my gun to semi-automatic only? Is this true as i cannot find anything online to support this? I only bought the gun 4 weeks ago so i don't really want to buy another gun. And hints/tips for further range than i currently have would be greatly appreciated! Karl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Prisce Posted November 19, 2018 Supporters Share Posted November 19, 2018 As far as I am aware it is not illegal. If you turn it into a DMR you have to lock it to semi, even electrically or mechanically. It CANNOT fire full auto otherwise it is illegal. Theres a load more complex details to it, but I stick to the basics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintrade Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 I think they used "illegal" to mask lack of ability 😉... Wouldn't be the first time someone used an excuse to hide their inability to do a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOODS Posted November 19, 2018 Author Share Posted November 19, 2018 Quite surprised if that is the case to be honest as the guy seems quite knowledgeable...but it doesn't make sense to turn away the work as it seems like it can be done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofsammo Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 TL;DR - lock it to semi and you can go up to 2.5J, without locking to semi, you can go up to 1.3J. The only legal guidance regarding limits that I have found is this:https://www.ukapu.org.uk/articles/ukapu-news/changes-to-airsoft-power-limit-enforcement/ Capable of automatic? Must be under 1.3J - otherwise it becomes a section 5 firearm, which means jail time without a licence. Single shot? Under 2.5J and you're golden. Over 2.5J and it's no longer an airsoft gun, but an air rifle and so can't be used on airsoft sites to shoot at other people. Seems reasonable. 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneaky Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Get the full auto locked and research on upgrading the gear box parts. It depends on how much money you want to spend on it. Be interesting to see what everyone else thinks and how they go about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOODS Posted November 19, 2018 Author Share Posted November 19, 2018 Just now, sonofsammo said: TL;DR - lock it to semi and you can go up to 2.5J, without locking to semi, you can go up to 1.3J. The only legal guidance regarding limits that I have found is this:https://www.ukapu.org.uk/articles/ukapu-news/changes-to-airsoft-power-limit-enforcement/ Capable of automatic? Must be under 1.3J - otherwise it becomes a section 5 firearm, which means jail time without a licence. Single shot? Under 2.5J and you're golden. Over 2.5J and it's no longer an airsoft gun, but an air rifle and so can't be used on airsoft sites to shoot at other people. Seems reasonable. 😄 Thanks i'll have a read up! 1 minute ago, Dino said: Get the full auto locked and research on upgrading the gear box parts. It depends on how much money you want to spend on it. Be interesting to see what everyone else thinks and how they go about it. I'd rather spend the money necessary and do it once! I have already mentioned to the tech guy at the shop i want it locked. I knew it had to be locked. Still wasn't interested though... Annoying as i bought the gun from there and want them to do it whilst it had warranty with them!😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davegolf Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 If your Rhop is working well and you are currently at 350fps? then you should have a respectable range and accuracy. Circa effective 65M. Whats your DMR FPS limit? You lose a lot of ground to MED for a negligible gain in effective range. Not only because of the FPS difference, but lack of firing from a closed bolt. Food for thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wo1f Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 ^this. If your DMR limit is only 400 FPS (50fps increase) on an electric gun, it really isn’t worth it. You’ll get a few extra meters, but you’ll loose the option of all round play if you have a MED. If it’s 450fps then it would potentially be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted November 20, 2018 Supporters Share Posted November 20, 2018 15 hours ago, GOODS said: The shop who have been carrying-out my upgrade works have said it is now illegal to do so? Which shop staffed by idiots should we be avoiding? If they don't want the work, that's fine. Telling you that it's a criminal offence should be a criminal offence. Tip: whenever anyone declares that anything is "illegal", say "Gosh, really? How awful. What Act and section creates the offence?" Feel free to whip out your electronical device of choice and offer to look it up on the spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Tackle Posted November 20, 2018 Supporters Share Posted November 20, 2018 27 minutes ago, Rogerborg said: Which shop staffed by idiots should we be avoiding? yeah, name & shame these idiots 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Samurai Posted November 20, 2018 Supporters Share Posted November 20, 2018 Not illegal, just not smart. It's never the gun unless it performs visibly bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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