Dannn 124 Posted August 7, 2015 And I still need the help of my tiny weak girlfriend to close the gear box in my g63, no matter how many times I've had it apart 😂 Do the people who make them in the factory have 2 normal size man hands and another 2 pair the size of a small girl ! 2 Lozart and Airsoft-Ed reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lozart 4,238 Posted August 7, 2015 They just have a third hand with twelve fingers on it! 3 Samurai, two_zero and Dannn reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MxHaze 113 Posted August 7, 2015 You need 10 pairs of hand to get the trigger group back in a v3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sitting Duck 2,927 Posted August 7, 2015 Opening your first few gearboxes is a piece of pi$$ IT IS CLOSING THE BASTID'S UP THAT IS THE PROBLEM !!!! Kudos to Samurai - one or two 10-15mm round "earth" or "neodym" magnets under box where AR latch goes that REALLY helps to keep the AR latch in place so you only need 3 hands - not 4 now don't work on trigger as that ain't magnetic but at least you got one less thing to jump out Now all that is left is spring, yup sounds easy, couple of "dry runs" without spring seeing how it best closes up usually cylinder head side lowering into position first etc..... Then the spring with a nice fitting screwdriver or something helping to pivot & hold spring guide downwards If cylinder has port then this aligned with piston runners to ensure piston stays put and not jump off the guides Oh there is loads of stuff you suss out and pick up tips & techniques of your own along the way too M100 or M105 springs are a breeze, m115/120 you can feel the extra resistance when inserting springs Best one was the DSG with a m150 or M160 mofo in it - f*ck me that was "fun" on ya own no really - about 3 times I "thought" I had finally done it up only to find something had just popped out at last final closing of box we are talking about 15 attempts - maybe more and was really close to giving up a couple of times hands now covered in grease - even though they was dry & clean, slipping eveywhere, trying to get some grip/leverage to compress spring but the trigger/spring wants to jump right out the moment you even fart or breathe near it f*ckety f*ckety f*ck f*ck f*ck Yeah - the whole dsg stuff is way way over rated imho - slight shortstroke m120 with a 13 or 14:1 gear set is much easier to build and that is the easy bit - it is all the checking and sanding/file and checking that it all fits and works properly that takes the time (imho depending on work involved and how meticulous you are a box should take most of weekend to strip, rebuild totally and assemble/test) yup you can do it very quick if just replacing one or two parts - but a full box and getting everything as good as you can get it will take more than a day - often you will need to step back - look for something or a break to de-stress or rethink any issues etc.... Some crap just don't wanna go in & work quite how you expect it - some boxes/gears just sound $hit no matter how well you shim & reshim Well that is my take on them - but finding me taking more care/time is producing much better results than my first few builds Oh and v3 - at least you test the damn box very quickly, seeing the bevel gear's position shifting as you adjust motor height getting it as quiet and schreech free as possible - heck you can even loosen the motor frame/cage and slightly pull it a smidge to get angle as close to perfection as possible V2's not quite as "test" friendly before you find out how crap that build sounds Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
two_zero 863 Posted August 8, 2015 Strange that, not a big fan of gearbox tinkering - hence AK/V3 - but I dont find closing it too problematic.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sitting Duck 2,927 Posted August 8, 2015 Strange that, not a big fan of gearbox tinkering - hence AK/V3 - but I dont find closing it too problematic.. you don't have all the internal wiring to watch out for and ensure it ain't pinched or popped out like v2's or the wire passing behind motor to keep low & in place on v2's V3's are much more test firendly - even rewire for mosfet after box is closed up the 2 part trigger is what took me a few attempts to put back together on my first AK but like most things there is a knack you soon suss out 1 two_zero reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrightCandle 516 Posted August 8, 2015 Hunterseeker makes some clips that can be used to hold problematic pieces in place to help get it closed up. It seems to be gearbox/parts dependent, some of them have a real tendency to jump out where others just stay put. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sitting Duck 2,927 Posted August 8, 2015 Samurai's AR magnet trick works ace - so simple but so damn effective One that sod is behaving itself, the trigger is really the only thing to watch out for and "usually" is ain't as bad as the AR, it does seem to stay put long enough to close the box back up its when you got a mofo spring or both trigger AND the AR latch - that is when the air turns blue - almost black in my house Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
