adam bussey Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 to quench metal you put it in cold liquid not hot liquid Tac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacMaster Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I know, I was merely going along with Ian's idea until I saw that after you pointed it out But yeah for full immersion tempering that'd probably be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose87 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I cant believe someone suggested pissing in their boots to soften them, yer i think they used to do it.....when we were fighting napoleon! i find putting them on and sticking your feet in hot water softens them pretty well. that and keeping them polished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirsoftTed Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 As Moose has said, that softens your boots. If you get them particulary muddy, kill 2 birds with one stone. Stand in the shower to clean your boots off and soften them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiantKiwi Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Nice guide Ian! Only two things I'd change- as its about being on a tight budget, I dont think an l85 is worth including and that MAG dont make high caps. (and possibly change the price of gbbr mags to £35 ) Other than that it's good to go Most GBBR Mags are closer to the £50 mark. KWA/KSC/WA/G&P/Prowin/GHK kinda outnumbers TM/WE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters M_P Posted August 14, 2013 Supporters Share Posted August 14, 2013 Most GBBR Mags are closer to the £50 mark. KWA/KSC/WA/G&P/Prowin/GHK kinda outnumbers TM/WE. I guess but the most common and popular ones TM/WE (and I suppose G&G) are at a lower price and come in more variants/models, in terms of numbers sold and easily available over here the TMs and WEs outnumber the rest by a sizeable amount. Equally though, I didn't realise all of KWA's were priced so high- I assumed it was just the mp7's as they're hard to get hold of though I've never really looked to see, I thought most of their other smg and lm4 mags were nearer £40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiantKiwi Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I guess but the most common and popular ones TM/WE (and I suppose G&G) are at a lower price and come in more variants/models, in terms of numbers sold and easily available over here the TMs and WEs outnumber the rest by a sizeable amount. Equally though, I didn't realise all of KWA's were priced so high- I assumed it was just the mp7's as they're hard to get hold of though I've never really looked to see, I thought most of their other smg and lm4 mags were nearer £40. I wish the KWA were cheaper, just sourced and bought 8 of the PMAG's for my LM4, my bank account has been crying since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters jcheeseright Posted August 15, 2013 Supporters Share Posted August 15, 2013 I wish the KWA were cheaper, just sourced and bought 8 of the PMAG's for my LM4, my bank account has been crying since. it'll be your back and knees crying when they realise that they're nearly 900g each! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viowithcrailtap Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Fantastic guide, I now know my first things to do. I'm quite lucky that I already have camo pants for work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Ian_Gere Posted August 15, 2013 Author Supporters Share Posted August 15, 2013 Rubbing Vaseline into the inside of really hard leather softens it. TBH i'm not sure that piss has any great leather softening properties other than being wet. In olden times they used piss to bleach leather. Actually I think Native Americans did that too, but I think that they had some complex process for softening buckskins. Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if the idea got started when the soldiers were all dressed in bright red and white, standing in a field waiting to be pounded by cannon shot... Old sergeant looks down the legs of young recruit and says with a grin, "Never mind, lad. It softens your boots." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornleverpuller Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 What is it about G&G m4's that make them so good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zak Da Mack Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 What is it about G&G m4's that make them so good? It's not their m4s that are good, it's their combat machine range. Great for the beginner at only £120ish and are very solid, require little maintenance and the internals are built to last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters sp00n Posted August 24, 2013 Supporters Share Posted August 24, 2013 What is it about G&G m4's that make them so good? Just to what Zak Da Mack has said, you get a hell of a lot of rifle for very little money The range my g&g cm16 raider L has, has put to shame many more expensive guns and they come with a one year warranty now (zero one is offering this) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinobi Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Rubbing Vaseline into the inside of really hard leather softens it. TBH i'm not sure that piss has any great leather softening properties other than being wet. In olden times they used piss to bleach leather. Actually I think Native Americans did that too, but I think that they had some complex process for softening buckskins. Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if the idea got started when the soldiers were all dressed in bright red and white, standing in a field waiting to be pounded by cannon shot... Old sergeant looks down the legs of young recruit and says with a grin, "Never mind, lad. It softens your boots." I play Baseball, so I know a few leather break in tricks. Vaseline can work, and it can not, but when I was asking a company about it, they said it can not and make it heavier. Though, alot of people have had great experiences, and I would agree it works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinobi Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I play Baseball, so I know a few leather break in tricks. Vaseline can work, and it can not, but when I was asking a company about it, they said it can not and make it heavier. Though, alot of people have had great experiences, and I would agree it works. Then again, this was breaking it in to a hand, and not softening it, so im nearly 100% sure it'll do the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Ian_Gere Posted November 25, 2013 Author Supporters Share Posted November 25, 2013 OP updated with further experience and new links. Any criticism/suggestions to help keep this guide useful are greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DX115FALCON Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 7. it is not illegal for an u18 to own a gun without hideous two-tone paint. Some retailers will sell a RIF to an adult accompanying a minor who has proof of being a skirmisher, but it is also not illegal for an u18 regular skirmisher to 'manufacture an RIF', ie strip the two-tone paint off (with Fairy Power Spray). Therefore, do whatever you need to do to get a Realistic looking Assault Rifle. A tutorial as to how to strip off the paint would be much appreciated, as I'm fed up with using a bright green MP5K! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Ian_Gere Posted January 14, 2014 Author Supporters Share Posted January 14, 2014 ^^There is one on here somewhere. There's a few on you tube too. In a few minutes, the power of my googlefu we will see, my young paddy-whatnot... Here we go. As I remember it, the last time we discussed this subject we came to the conclusion that what you need is any solution which is alkali but not so high PH as a strong NaOh solution, drain cleaner stylee, but since Fairy Power Spray isn't that expensive, there's probably not much point arsing about with stuff which could potentially melt your plastic (unless you have a spare handguard, for eg, which you're prepared to risk for the sake of you tube fame and our general edification... anybody?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike3005 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Really good guide Ian has helped alot in looking in the right places to get started out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DX115FALCON Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Wish that this guide was around when I started out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Ian_Gere Posted January 26, 2014 Author Supporters Share Posted January 26, 2014 Wish that this guide was around when I started out! Me too. That's why I wrote it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Del Monty Posted January 26, 2014 Supporters Share Posted January 26, 2014 Is there anything that Vaseline doesn't do ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Ian_Gere Posted January 26, 2014 Author Supporters Share Posted January 26, 2014 TBH, except on the back of my heels, like proper soaking my socks, to stop trainers rubbing when dancing all weekend, or to massage into leather boot heels, I wouldn't use it for anything. Especially not bumsecks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumps Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Great guide. As a beginner: The best thing I did when I got my boots was that I went to my local surplus store & picked up some 2nd hand German army para boots (Any army leather boots will do it) which cost me £30, I softened them with organic coconut oil (I work with Chemist's in a lab & this was advised by them) which worked perfectly. Then bought some "Sorbothane" insoles. the boots are now as comfortable & feel lighter than any walking boots on the market (Which I have tried in the past) & cost less than anything new. I bought all my stuff from Surplus shops, forum classifieds & E-bay. My whole Load out cost less that £100. THe only thing i need now is a chest rig & Rif (Both of which I will get once I know what suits me better) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Ian_Gere Posted January 27, 2014 Author Supporters Share Posted January 27, 2014 Yeah, I wear German Para Boots too. Totally reliable for walking on anything you might find on an airsoft site and waterproof, with really good ankle support. I never thought of using coconut oil on them before, but yeah it sounds like a plan. I use 1 pair of Poundland memory foam insoles with a pair of Trainer Tamer Odour Eaters on top, plus under those is some shaped bits of gel insole from fleabay (for tiny little Asian female feet I think) under the balls of my feet and heels to stop my feet slipping about and crushing my toes (because they are very slim). Edit: oh aye, and thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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