Tariq Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 The Gen4 We series isnt too bad. Fires well and is less temperamental in the cold. Still not KWA/TM spec though. Only problem my mate has come across is that the inner barrel has snapped of and flew 2m after firing He has the G18C though and has dropped it a few times. I've been told that the new british army glock will be semi tan. not sure if its the lower reciever or the slide though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psion Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 with the police being issued G36Cs and british special forces and police using MP5 series sub machine guns surely H&K would have been a good place to look for a replacement to the browning. I dont think you can go far wrong with the USPs they address all the issues with Glock and Sig Sauer. chambered for 9mm or .40 S&W or .45 you get the stand alone saftey, de-cocking action, SA/DA or DAO, 20mm accessory rail. overlooked? incidentally, i carry a P226 rail and love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Airsoft-Ed Posted January 13, 2013 Supporters Share Posted January 13, 2013 That's a good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 Overlooked? Nope, hideously over-priced. Whilst it's true that one SIG-Sauer P226 is roughly the same cost as two Glock 17s, H&K's USP series is ludicrously expensive - which is why it's limited to small armies (Australia) or specialist units. It's just too expensive to issue in the numbers we require. As for calibres - both Glock and SIG come in all of those calibres, some SIG-Sauers coming in .357 SIG rounds too. As Britain has never really seen the need in anything bigger than 9mm for regular units, this is a fairly moot point. (However SIG-Sauer's .45ACP version of the P220 however has had some use in specialist units) H&K, SIG, Ruger, Glock, Browning (and someone else I forget) all took part in the trial, starting way back in 2009. H&K and Ruger were both ruled out pretty quickly, when it was realised that they were so expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Airsoft-Ed Posted January 13, 2013 Supporters Share Posted January 13, 2013 So despite having H&K factories in the UK, it's still cheaper to have guns built in Austria and sent over? I thought H&K were under the umbrella of BAE? If they still are you'd have thought there'd be some sort of deal to be had or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAcorn Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 As Britain has never really seen the need in anything bigger than 9mm for regular units, this is a fairly moot point That's a good point, since basically the main opposition in the recent wars have mostly been against people in normal clothes. I think even 9mm is OP against cloth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters TPI Posted January 13, 2013 Supporters Share Posted January 13, 2013 (Tariq) only in afghanistan and ireland at best everyone else would have had some type of body armour. H&K were however they were actually sold off unless the Dimwitted airbrain's decided to buy it back in the last 5- 6 year's i don't think they are BAE Owned anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 BAE Systems sold H&K to a group of German business men from 2004-5, after the SA80-A2 project was finished. However, H&K run/rent the Nottingham Small Arms Factory (formerly BAe - not BAE's Royal Ordnance- Factory Nottingham), and make rifles, carbines, SMGs. As of 2009, the factory definitely didn't make pistols, that being run by one of H&K's German factories. (About 75% of H&K's civilian pistol manufacture takes place in H&K's US factory, unsurprisingly). The factory makes a fair bit - that which isn't needed by the UK is exported elsewhere. Even if the NSAF did make pistols, it wouldn't be cost efficient to buy them - the fact remains, H&K's pistols are expensive. Add in to the fact that they'd been made in the UK, and the cost would have gone up by about 2/3s. As for BAE Systems making a deal... The company has earned it's nickname "Big, Awful, Expensive" for a reason You're far more likely to see MTP come out in luminous pink than see BAE sell kit to the UK Gov for a realistic price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Airsoft-Ed Posted January 13, 2013 Supporters Share Posted January 13, 2013 Fair enough lol, I'd not heard the nickname before otherwise I wouldn't have said anything haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psion Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 hmmmmm, a british company manufacturing firearms IN the UK that can't make a deal to supply the british armed forces??? interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Airsoft-Ed Posted January 15, 2013 Supporters Share Posted January 15, 2013 Marksman has just linked me to this via Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fsoldiersystems.net%2F2013%2F01%2F15%2Fshot-show-radar-1957%2F&h=DAQERsQ1Y He's away so he can't post it himself. Might have to get myself one once I've found a decent Glock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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