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Hey guys,


So I'm brand new to airsoft. Went the first time the other day to SWAT URBAN in Chester for a friends stag doo and thought it was absolutely awesome. Been wanting to get into it for a while now, but the associated price tag always scared me off, but since some of the other guys that went are going to go for it I decided I will too.


Now, although I'm a newb, I've spent a lot of time lurking around forums (this one especially) and a whole lot of UK airsoft retailers websites, so I kind of understand what I should be going for. The problem is, I'm on a disgusting budget; like, I'd say £200 would be pushing it. I know all about the law also, so I understand I can't just walk out there and buy a RIF yet, and yes I am going for two tone (quick question though, once I get UKARA, I can just paint it, right?)


Ok, so I'm looking for my first gun to be:

- AEG (obviously)

- Considerably cheap

- Upgradeable

- CQB (but wouldn't mind something long)

- Not AK.


My friend is selling a G&G Combat Machine (plastic clear body) for £80. Problem is he lives miles away, so its going to cost me a bomb just to get there, and plus I've heard.. well.. mixed things about the cheaper G&G. I've been looking at ICS as I've heard alot of TM stuff fits on there, and its a good place to start if you want a gun you can upgrade in the future.


Anyone help me out? Thank you in advance!


Oh yeah, the budget ISN'T including gear (vests, overalls, etc) for now. I'm planning on getting most of that stuff around Christmas.

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G&G's budget guns are great, can't go wrong with one of them. You can pick up a few models brand new for around £100.


ICS do a plastic range too, you'll be able to get a pretty large selection of stuff from both those manufacturers with around £200, ought to be able to get the gun, a battery and charger and maybe some cheap camo gear. If you're happy using hi-cap mags I wouldn't bother with a chest rig or mag vest, airsofting doesn't hurt enough to need the protection and you won't need the space to carry the mags if they're hi-caps because one or two ought to last you ages.


With regard to ICS being compatible with TM stuff, I'm not entirely sure that's accurate, ICS have a reputation for only being compatible with ICS parts, expecially externally. If you buy a non-RIS M4 for example, and then decide you want to add RIS, you're pretty much left with one option - Get the ICS RIS as nothing else is a guaranteed fit.

Internally I imagine they use standard gears and such, but don't quote me.


Practically everything is upgradable, you just need to know what you're looking for. You'd be better off getting the gun and then asking people on the forums what you'd need to do to improve the performance and then list the things you'd like it to be better at.


Happy shopping ^_^

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with a £200 budget for your first gun you can get something pretty respectable, zero-one are the retailer I'd recommend as they do the 2tone paint for nothing and it's just standard green spray paint, so when you've got a defence sorted you can just remove it with oven cleaner.


Some examples of bargains:

http://www.zerooneairsoft.com/product_info...roducts_id=6085 - M4

http://www.zerooneairsoft.com/product_info...roducts_id=6981 - MP5

http://www.zerooneairsoft.com/product_info...roducts_id=6076 - M4 CQB

http://www.zerooneairsoft.com/product_info...roducts_id=5035 - Classic Army M4 with sling/goggles/battery/charger etc.


All of those are less than £150, leaving you plenty of cash for a couple of high cap mags, a charger and probably even a cheap-ish optic to stick on top.


Assuming you wanted the G&G M4 (it's decent out of the box, but really very upgradable too)

http://www.zerooneairsoft.com/product_info...roducts_id=5035 - Gun, £120 free two-tone

http://www.zerooneairsoft.com/product_info...roducts_id=5790 - £15 - There are better batteries, but I'm just clicking 'related products'. I'd recommend an intellect branded battery, they're really very good.

http://www.zerooneairsoft.com/product_info...roducts_id=2656 - £15 - Cheap charger, not the best in the world, but it won't burn your house down and it'll charge your batteries.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aimpoint-CompM2-...=item20c3ba1fe2 - £30 - aimpoint sight, bling bling baby.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40...20m4&_sop=2 - hi-cap magazines... take your pick, there's hundreds and they're cheap as chips, with the £15 left over if you have a trawl of forums and suchlike you can probably pick up a couple of used hi-caps pretty easy.


And there you have it, a complete gun/battery/charger/sight/mag combo for less than £200, it'll work fine for you til you decide to get something better, or you can just keep improving the G&G.

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If your like for something easy to upgraded then I would avoid ICS. I have a full metal ICS M4A1 and trying to find compatible parts is a nightmare. Mostly because of the Split Gearbox Design but also because ICS like to make you have to buy their crane stocks and stock tubes and Delta rings etc, etc.


My friend just got into airsoft and got a G&G Combat Machine. Brilliant gun out of the box.


The picture of his gun is the gun with out of the box internals, a G&P suppressor, a G&G barrel extension piece, a vertical grip and an aimpoint. (space between rails and suppressor is for a folding sight which he does not yet have)


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With regards to ICS. It wont take TM hop units standard, the unit needs modding if thats what you want to upgrade.

The handguard size if smaller than standard AEG size. The crane stock takes a special battery that you can find (I think) on Fire support, 9.6v 2000Mah.

My review isn't the best but if you need some info on a sportline ICS i got one here:

Hope this helps.

(By the way, ICS do have a good rep even though most parts are proprietary)

I'd say for compatibility, buy a CA or a JG (Classic Army have a sportline range also which is very very popular among new players)

Says out of stock but just send an email or ask on their FB group if you use FaceBook http://www.red1airsoft.co.uk/Classic-Army-...ortline-Premium

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Classic Army i love apart from their Sportline Plastic Crap that snap's when your doing CQB.


Go G&G you can get their Plastic Version for £99.99 at some where (can Never Remember) and Most Experienced people Buy them Up for Back Up Rifle's their so good out the box

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