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Looking at getting a new TM416 but looks like some are getting their trades taken off - does anyone know of or had any delivered recently still with the trades on? Really like the look of the HK tradesand stuff so wouldn’t want to open my brand new shiny black 416 Delta and find it looking blank and plain and a little bit shoddy 

 
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I believe that only Umarex / VFC have the H&K licence to use real trademarks, and TM do not thus have to remove them for the UK market. 

Nice to have trademarks but if it does not, it is still a TM gun.

Using the search tool, has a 3 character minimum length, on word "trademark" brings up this old topic:




 
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Before placing an order bud, just phone the supplier and ask them about H&K trades. 

I think you'll be surprised to find there is plenty of suppliers that mention the lack of trades on their website, but in actual fact leave them alone entirely! 

 
Before placing an order bud, just phone the supplier and ask them about H&K trades. 

I think you'll be surprised to find there is plenty of suppliers that mention the lack of trades on their website, but in actual fact leave them alone entirely! 


This ^ rarely have I seen one without the trades complete.

 
Sweet. Coz I was swaying toward the Mk18 that’s just come out even though I’ve always loved the look of the 416s but thought they’d be no point if it didn’t have trades.

So that kind of settles it.

Now... do I go Tan or Black ???

 
Sweet. Coz I was swaying toward the Mk18 that’s just come out even though I’ve always loved the look of the 416s but thought they’d be no point if it didn’t have trades.

So that kind of settles it.

Now... do I go Tan or Black ???


No point? I don't get what you mean, for realism? I'd just get it engraved.

 
Yea I like the realism I think the HK stuff looks cool


As mentioned you'd be hard pressed to find somewhere selling without the trades but there are plenty of people that can engrave them for you etc if you did.

 
I got my Delta and when it came it had this black marker over it. Came straight off with nail polish. 

 
Oh my god my anti geardo twitch has gone into overdrive ?

Wouldn't buy an airsoft gun without trades because of lack of realism but the 6mm plastic bbs and whiny motor are acceptable?

Give you a tip a TM recoil is no more realistic than any other. The recoil is barely there TM Judder would be a more apt description. It also goes the wrong way, happens a fraction late and as they get older make a stupid boing noise in you ear.

Just buy what looks nice and is reliable and forget the realism because there is honestly none anywhere within airsoft.

 
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Oh my god my anti geardo twitch has gone into overdrive ?

Wouldn't buy an airsoft gun without trades because of lack of realism but the 6mm plastic bbs and whiny motor are acceptable?

Give you a tip a TM recoil is no more realistic than any other. The recoil is barely there TM Judder would be a more apt description. It also goes the wrong way, happens a fraction late and as the get older make a stupid boing noise in you ear.

Just buy what looks nice and is reliable and forget the realism because there is honestly none anywhere within airsoft.


How did I guess you’d jump on this ?

 
Can I nip in with my standard..."Buy an ERG" refrain again? :P

 
Oh my god my anti geardo twitch has gone into overdrive ?

Wouldn't buy an airsoft gun without trades because of lack of realism but the 6mm plastic bbs and whiny motor are acceptable?

Give you a tip a TM recoil is no more realistic than any other. The recoil is barely there TM Judder would be a more apt description. It also goes the wrong way, happens a fraction late and as they get older make a stupid boing noise in you ear.

Just buy what looks nice and is reliable and forget the realism because there is honestly none anywhere within airsoft.


I get that we’re all playing army with our friends using toy guns but for £600 I want my toy to be spot on and if someone’s scratched off a logo before I’ve even opened the box then I’d rather get one thqt hadn’t been fiddled with prior to me getting it

 
I get that we’re all playing army with our friends using toy guns but for £600 I want my toy to be spot on and if someone’s scratched off a logo before I’ve even opened the box then I’d rather get one thqt hadn’t been fiddled with prior to me getting it


Buy the VFC licensed version then....

 
Matter of opinion, most would say not but I think TM are overpriced and overrated but hey everyone has an opinion right?

My point was, if trademarks mean that much to you just buy one with trademarks.

If I had that money to spend on a recoil gun I would be getting a KWA ERG C4-10 - oh wait I have.

 
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TM's come with trades, if you are that concerned phone the shop before placing an order (or go in if you are close) and ask if they do indeed have one with trades as mentioned above.

 
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