Undieing_Lust

Agreed thats why am pissed at myself...

Everybody in this thread is missing the extremely obvious and logical option. Get a pet tiger.
 

 
No body is gonna argue with that.

Everybody in this thread is missing the extremely obvious and logical option. Get a pet tiger.
 

 
No body is gonna argue with that.

Everybody in this thread is missing the extremely obvious and logical option. Get a pet tiger.
 

 
No body is gonna argue with that.

Everybody in this thread is missing the extremely obvious and logical option. Get a pet tiger.
 

 
No body is gonna argue with that.

(Sorry mods if this is in the wrong section. I wasn't sure if I should put it here or the feedback section.)
 
Do NOT buy from Flapjack. A couple of days ago I bought off of him an ICS M4 here is the picture of the gun I thought I was getting.)
 
http://postimg.org/image/h5i1bbc7t/
 
Please note the Surefire flash hider. Which did not come with the gun.
 
The gun was sold to me as being serviced (Shimmed, AOE corrected, greased) and It was to arrive without the scope and a Magpul foregrip. As I don't have UKARA to prove that I am airsofter when It was being shipped, I asked him to paint it 51% blue which he did because of having to paint it he said that he could not accept returns and asked the money to be send via gift. I agreed, He then posted it out to me. It arrived today, here is the gun I actually got. (Sorry for being so pic heavy...)
 
http://s23.postimg.org/wm48cgg4b/DSC_0116.jpg
 
http://s30.postimg.org/vt18d509t/DSC_0117.jpg
 
http://s7.postimg.org/ftg3okmvf/DSC_0119.jpg
 
http://s1.postimg.org/bj9xrjmkf/DSC_0120.jpg
 
http://s7.postimg.org/dq5ogwn2j/DSC_0121.jpg
 
http://s17.postimg.org/4woscur67/DSC_0122.jpg
 
http://s13.postimg.org/uc5evdqnb/DSC_0123.jpg
 
http://s17.postimg.org/duip1oydr/DSC_0124.jpg
 
http://s10.postimg.org/qzxjwp3cp/DSC_0118.jpg
 
http://s11.postimg.org/8am2bgpub/DSC_0125.jpg
 
http://s28.postimg.org/cls2e2eql/DSC_0126.jpg
 
http://s14.postimg.org/6mk0q0ebl/DSC_0127.jpg
 
http://s4.postimg.org/u2vdo2125/DSC_0128.jpg
 
http://s2.postimg.org/y8m06ptix/DSC_0129.jpg
 
http://s9.postimg.org/vcei5vw1b/DSC_0131.jpg
 
· The Surefire flash hider is not on the barrel. Just a standard A2 birdcage
· The AoE has not be corrected like described I can tell by the second to last tooth on the piston still being in place and not removed.
· The trigger contacts are badly burned. (Hard to see from picture but easy IRL)
· The lower gearbox is swimming in grease. As well as the upper gearbox missing a screw.
· The upper and lower receivers are badly scratched. Which is not visible from the picture and was not described in the description.
· The butt pad is starting to fall apart on the stock being held on at the bottom by glue.
· The hop up spring is bent.
· The screws on the picatinny rail on the upper receiver are striped

Purchased 'em here off ebay from Bullseye Outdoor Sport.

Ah, they're good people.

Thanks for all the support guys.

Thanks for all the support guys.

Massively important to post people like this in as many places as possible.
 
Try the Airsoft Sales Feedback page on Facebook, they are a good way of checking lists of sellers for good and bad.
 
 
Sorry you have been hit this way but the best thing to do would be to get the word out. I will mention his name and direct people to this forum post and the zero in one.
 
Hmm seems I cant follow the zeroin link or find anything about feedback on him on there. It is massively suspicious that he is selling so many guns, and clearly wants "broken" guns. Hmmmm

Sadly OP is VERY unlikely to get anything back from Paypal, I had a similar experience a while back (though only over a £20 motor, still got robbed all the same). Once Paypal confirmed I couldn't open a dispute as it was gifted, I did however email them informing them of what had happened so at least they are aware the person is scamming people. Didn't help me but may possibly save others. Wasn't the guy referred to by OP btw.

I'm amazed people even get away with crap like this when it comes to selling gear. Easy enough if the gun don't work and you find the issue and fix it easily, even if the gun was bought on a bargain, but the moment i saw that bent recoil spring,....jesus, this guy needs to be the posterchild for how to get lit up during a game!
 
I very nearly had a similar case when I got my M32 GL; the guy didnt specify that it was two toned, the locking spring lost tension and did next to nothing and the stock position teeth were worn to f***. But, for £85 alongside an easy fix, ended up being the biggest steal in terms of owning one
 
But yeah, Name and shame the guy. hunt him down, get his details, spread them across all his active boards and take it up with higher authorities. If you're lucky, you can get him done under the sales of goods act 1979; selling you something faulty without the backup of a guarantee, or evidence prior to the sale that it worked. Not sure if this covers personal transactions.
Edit: Here's a statement from someone at paypal concerning a similar issue:

"When a payment has been sent through the PayPal website, you only have 45 days from when the payment was sent in order to open a dispute on the transaction to try and get your money back. If the 45 day timeframe has passed, you can't open a dispute on the transaction through your account.

The next thing that I need to advise you is that Personal/Gift transactions are not covered under our Buyer Protection Policy. We would only advise that if you are purchasing goods or services that you select the correct options when making the payment through your account. This means that even if you were trying to open a dispute within 45 days from when the payment was sent, we would not be able to investigate it as it was sent as a Personal payment."

My best advice for you would be to contact your local police in order for them to investigate it further on your behalf. If your police require, they can contact PayPal directly in order to request any information that they need to assist them with their investigations.

Can we get all his sales threads here locked? Seems this bloke is a serial scammer. He's got several items for sale now.

unlucky dude hope he sorts it out as that is not good!

Since he's already been identified on ZeroIn we may as well let others know on here (in case of re-regging).
 
He seems to be pretty active on Facebook too. Lads names Jamie and he's from Dublin, Ireland. Just be weary those details if buying/ selling/ trading with someone as it may be Mr "Flapjack" undercover...

yes, when I was selling virtual gold, I had someone charge back for £2... no joke. Sorry for you man, try and message one of the mods, maybe they will lock his threads and you can talk before he scams anyone else

Even if they did, so what. You got something to hide.
 
The original post is bit dodgy for two different reasons either.
 
1. His first post and sailing close to being a commercial for a business.
 
2. Do you want to go to a foreign country to learn from strangers on the word of a stranger on the net?
 
If you you want this sort of thing there are plenty of well established companies out there already offering it.

Gutted for you., that's a lot of cash to lose. definitely don't gift anything more than £20 unless it actually is a gift. Some people are really shitty..

YUP - f*cking carrier bags was my gun delivery
one end came off showing the front barrel but RM must have plopped it back on
well safe and good way to avoid suspicion ffs
 
yeah that sounds like same seller to me A++ & all that crap
 
wooo hoooo - my one thousand post - talking about dodgy sellers - just great
 
SOZ - but if this creates crap again - to hell with it.....
 
c'mon we need to put in place a min of say 250 posts or something
(one forum I was on different hobby, had to have a min 1k posts to sell on PS3Hax Forum)
 
There was times some peeps have come on to sell but have been able to prove/supply good ebay feedback
Otherwise - well you can guess the possible results
 
Yes it is buyer's responsibility to check blah blah blah...but
if no min requirements - even a few basic ones like even 100 posts ffs
this will show they are on here and may be able to contact them to resolve issues
 
Otherwise this forum is washing it hands and "could" be seen to turn a blind eye to it
Buyers responsibility & all that - yeah but ffs at least make it a little more difficult for some sellers
 
Soz mods - not having a go but think perhaps we need to have a vote/poll on this and go with results
let majority decide if a min post count might help
 
Anyone not of that level can either provide valid reference or something
 
Or we can just let anybody join up and sell bodged up pieces of crap not fitting to the description
 
Yeah what a great 1,00th post ffs
 
soz if any of this offends but feel I had to say it

wow £290 is a lot I feel for you,
Its a shame you gifted it otherwise you could have just withdrew the money.
 
When you gifted the money did you leave a note? maybe you can contact paypal and try to get a refund i dont know

Post on Zeroin.
 
http://forums.zeroin.co.uk/showthread.php?255741-Do-NOT-buy-from-Flapjack&p=1376444#post1376444

Agreed thats why am pissed at myself...

Lets just say a R85 from Ireland didn't quite arrive in the condition I expected mainly down to packing - F*ck all
and I think he liked to buy up broken guns and "fix" - ahem
bits not quite intact and it locked with something rattling inside box - bargain
got a few quid knocked off but still a bad taste in my mouth
 
So yeah I feel ya pain as did a few others on here and though I said we need a min post count to sell
which stirred up a bin here briefly I think a few knew he was selling iffy guns to peeps not quite ukara'd yet
thus very little comeback
 
We kind of resolved it so I chose not to leave feedback, but a little later somebody else had more serious problems
 
I dunno how people can sell off stuff that is pi$$ poor - but plenty do in this world
(my own law is if it is crap - it is scrapped, just not worth hassle selling on crappy stuff)
 
Alas - not everybody has the same levels of integrity I guess

Can I also make a suggestion? Post this post, pictures included onto ZeroIn. He's just as active on there as he is on here. Best to let people know.