Sitting Duck

I was just saying if alcohol is a MUST have for cleaning rather than buy bottles of 70/30 or 99% isoprol just get some wipes - not that expensive and less messing about can be used safely on numerous things to clean etc.... cut/tear it to size, pop in your rod - oooh ergh missus, clean barrel - throw away (no spills - no fuss & easy quick to do at half time if you like) everybody uses different stuff & methods/techniques just pointing out the swab option

or you could buy the swabs if you don't want to buy in bulk get 100 or so swabs very cheap - same 70/30 ratio in swabs - quick simple & throw away or buy 99% pure in bottle but 5ltr is cheaper option but not so easy to carry to skirmish etc... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400442156564 I have bought a few of these for various use - yes you can get 100 cheaper but with these you get the brand you pay for rather than be sent any other type they have to hand

I actually hope they are airsofters you imagine now you could have more RIF's out there that anybody can buy and use on anybody sorry but you just DONT leave stuff in vehicle car or van, especially van -they always target and with my own UKARA due any day now are we not supposed to act responsibly with RIF's Sorry but it is a shame stuff got nicked but the real problem is now a $hitload of stuff is out there in ANYBODY's hands at local pub with a $hitload of ammo too FFS - THE VAN OWNERS AND THE THIEVES ARE C U NT S IN MY BOOK soz if that me seem a bit harsh - but just hope no joe public losses an eye from some dickhead driveby G36 they just bought (really hope this is ott extreme or local shops being robbed at gun point but a tiny bit more likely now) Hence the owners of all people should know/act more responsible with their stuff - so no I am not very sympathetic to them

You don't even know what your style of play is atm.... you might find yourself running as a spotter/sniper or think wtf and go sprinting around with pistols all die hard like or more like not got a bloomin' clue what I'm doing and so just bring up the rear or become a diversion / decoy for the more experienced team players to rush from other side You could end up buying all nice stuff but find your loadout & style doesn't suit your own playstyle sure I'd love to run in all guns blazing but with my lame ar$e skill don't think I wanna sit in safezone for 9:30mins either (8:00mins in safe zone and that is a good game for me - just kidding) chill a sec - get playing and see how YOU take to it, your strengths weakness etc.... then a while later you buy the stuff that suits how YOU play I'm sure loads of people think they wanna snipe and then find it is too boring or not for them and vice versa I would imagine too

I might have a SRC Dragon that I may break - plastic receiver top & bottom for £30 delivered but tbh you might wanna buy a Dragon for £75 delivered and have additional spares Dragon has battery at front hanguard and uses a cheaper plastic outer gearbox with metal gears but could use that for a while and if / when it needs repairing you would have $hitloads of spares

Go nuts and do the Darth Vader Loadout - crap at long range but lethal light-sabre kills come to think of it - mayvbe they should do a Star Wars theme skirmish... feckin awsome - rebels vs stormtroopers... Actually bet the yanks already have this for jedi airsofters Deffo seen lots of chubby 10-12yr olds that could easily pass as yoda I reckon

Don't really have a song in my head on my way to safe/respawn (just mutter b0ll0cks he got me again ffs) But I suppose I could be ironically humming in my head: I Missed Again - Phil Collins perhaps ???? nah - prefer my muttering of how I am gonna get that little $hit somehow

Nah - I go to a skirmish to shoot people - but usually get my ar$e shot to bits instead all the same - I know some game modes with shields or juggernaut may be a change but pick some decent modes and go head to head old skool is what I wanna play Grab the bomb, briefcase, marker/flag and RUN LIKE F*CK don't hide behind a shield and retreat back - run for it ya lazy bastid

certainly miles better than JustBBGuns for sure Still have a look and the odd purchase fron BBGuns4Less They do some good deals and at least they answer phone/emails unlike JambWow & I wish them well with their more "pro" UKARA status

I was told all bb's do degrade in the end but was kind of sceptical of how long it takes like cd's in landfill sites etc... bios supposed to go afer 6months but told more like a year ??? anyone know about regular bb's - please don't say 35 yrs or I may be in trouble: "We need to talk" she says... in female to male terms simply means.... I AM IN DEEP F*CKING $HIT BIG TIME woo-hoo 100 posts - pity only about 15 are worth or make any sense though

how much of this stuff wa nicked ??? I will ask at my local - probaly the local arms dealer had something to do with it - Nobby the Nuke-Man sounds like b0ll0cks though like most of the stuff I type gonna ring a tip-off line tell them some chubby bastid in Twickenham was offering some FANTASTIC genuine US loadout gear

Seriously ensure you always wear eye protection if messing about - I'm sure you do but even just firing some tests shots in my garden I have had a few ricochets back at me of a step a target was sitting on - wtf I make a point now always wear something - even spectacles or is better than nothing - NOT IDEAL MASK OR PROPER EYE PROTECTORS IS BEST - but have learnt don't take chances even with target pratice on my own and I am getting nice plastic gravel patch at end of my garden that no doubt she will not find attractive when she notices it (just tell her it was a new modern finishing touch on gardeners world make over at Kew Gardens or something)

£8 for 5k - really, I know TWA do £9 for 5k in shop but never bought at site and dunno if prices went up or dropped Think £2 per 1,000 is still a good price and may try a few SRC's next time I go TWA I normally get 10k of Bull$hit for about £21.40 del if I put it with another smallish order and got option of black or white 0.2g bb's I posted from a link the OP said about £9:50 for 4k del which ain't bad and always cheaper in bulk but not everybody wants to spend loads of money to get good delivered price when they realise they may be getting low If your local store or site sells them at good price then go for it, but if ya getting really low it would be wise to ring them and ensure they will have a good stock at site on day if you are getting critically low perhaps Just incase somebody like comes along - I tend to if I see an offer or good price I have a tendency to go nuts and buy twice the amount or a spare one "just in case" - mobile fones, guns, bb's, games - she my other half does her nut as per usual... The only thing I have only one of is my missus - who the f*ck would want 2 or 3 lots of nagging, grief & hassle FFS ???

my fault bumping it up coz of crazy hot pistol think mods should perhaps lock this thread and just let it die a natural death

Sorry but the best answer is to put rubbish out in the morning early after the foxes mainly twilight/nocturnal have had their patrol Ain't the fox's fault is it - but that does not imply that you can shoot your neighbours either just coz they are soapy bastids Or the binmen/council for not sorting out proper rubbish collection

if you can use a water pistol that would technically safer ....... But Foxes can be brave and bold as brass plus the rare incident that takes place in media So if your local bobby says squirting water at them is alright BUY A HIGH POWER KARCHER - no still cruel just kidding really Seriously - it is very cruel - maybe the real thing is to ensure your bins are locked up securely they will soon go off and scavenge elsewhere and leave your place in less mess

nice engraving - see you like your guns to look good like the hozelock cqb one as well seriously - nice attention to detail on all your stuff

agreed like I said but bet it would hurt a bit that was all no worries this getting a bit off topic - soz for silly picture

well real firearms start from 1500fps for a pussy firearm but I know it is only a plastic bb with little mass but forget your dmr/sniper stuff and I truely believe that was what came out end got 2 pistols and the other started at 650fps, then 530fps then 400fps etc..... this one was second one I tested and was wondering if this would be strange at very start BLOOMIN' HECK i thought - but they both behaving atm 350 fps mark depending on bb's used but really think the chrono didn't lie coz other one was strange at first but not that crazy And probably won't kill at 1664fps but not gonna run a test to find out how much it hurts (can't anyway coz that was deffo a first time glitch is seems on both pistols) 2tone atm - but tempted to respray all black and call it after some massive dude on here what is that gun - this this is my bad ass black death co2 pistol

Has anybody else has some freaky fps stuff like the above ???

So we have different techniques or methods or findings that we go with based on our experiences nad what we find works best for us I admit I am am still learning - aren't we all though ??? But did say about the warning of not using silicone on rubber (not because it kills it but will affect its performance in holding bb) Many chemicals can degrade rubber or cause it to swell but swelling rubber is just a tempory fix as it will return to its worn state eventually we can swell the rubber at work to bring rubber back to life but doesn't last for very long replacement is the real answer for worn parts I'm sure we all will agree on that Also there is is this myth that one thing will do it all - very rarely the case various items will require different things to keep them running smooth and silicone and Isopropyl on their own is not the one and only thing to use Think we all agree that less is more and the only thing that should be applied in large quantity when doing quick clean or quick service or even a full rebuild is Basic Common Sense - alas you can't just buy this off the shelf But keep it clean and don't go nuts I think is the general message I think

OK I am 47yrs young and my profession is in the print industry - Print Finishing to be exact Using Polar guillotine is where lots of paper is cut and though has airbeds a polished airbed really helps when moving stacks or reams of sometimes big heavy paper...... Now you can use Pledge or Mr Sheen but trust me a spray of silicone and wipe pi$$es over anything else On Folding machines - Stahl/Heidelberg & MBO the paper is folded in plates, it slips up plate forms fold and then slips out of plate 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999% with old traditional lithograpgic printed sheets it works fine BUT recently Digital printing is getting more and more common. Trouble with Digital printing is STATIC - and I mean this $hit is weird this static can cause drag and bizarre crap to happen that you would never see on litho.... The electric silicone solenoid spray system I knocked up saved us running up and down spraying the crap out of folder plates & rollers - these are metal & rubber btw so I know silicone we used didn't destroy the rubber segments of the rollers - anyway this bastic job was a digitially printed closed or double Gatefold - one of the more trickier folds to do requiring a special Gatefold plate - we have 3 of these expensive plates coz we do crap that other places don't like to touch. It is a little critical in setting up - even speed of machine can mess up a working machine - as machine speeds up centrifugal force actually causes the rubber on rollers to increase pressure (if you set pressure on a still machine lightly - the pressure in increased when she starts to run - but even pressure) The silicone device was used on gatefold to very lightly spray with very very fine droplets the bastid and ensure the paper slipped up the folding plate with no drag - if drag took place paper would travel the ammount and fold would be incorrect - and it worked really really well to get us out of the $hit - no I am no enginneer or the only experienced or clever bloke at my firm - all of them are the best people I have ever worked with and we all bring stuff to the table as the saying goes - we all are brilliant at problem solving...... Sorry about massive ramblings but just trying to show what I have based my theory on Silicone will not be answer to world peace or make you more attractive to opposite sex but it is good in my book at reducing drag - this does not last a liftetime as we need to spray folder very regularly and on guillotine after say an hour or so another spray will help keep the stock moving smoothly on airbed It will not last in an AEG all day - think it will start to dissapear or lose effectiveness probably after 1 or 2 games and I have said used sparingly - you do not pour any stuff into gun and hope for best - a pool of even the best polish will just increase drag - so c'mon use some common sense as well as any cleaner Also use anything too much - even best synthetic oils and it will attract dust dirt etc and dirt & lubricant together is much worse than too little so to speak - hence I have said use any cleaner or lubricant sparingly I have said use on barrel - AFTER rubber or bucking coz it will probably not hold bb in place if it is as slippery as $hit, so on hop-up I would not use it WD40 might be ok to help if hop-up gears have become stiff or siezed but again keep use sparingly coz you do not want this either on bucking and I "think" it is petroleum based and that may degrade the rubber if used or used too much Silicone or Lithium Grease and gearbox - well I don't know too much about that yet, but the stuff would be good to use on gear shafts, bearings and gears even to reduce heat or wear - yes it may attract dust & dirt but in general the gearbox is sealed - not airtight but not wide open to easily attract loads of crap. But is sealed and inside receiver all the same so a good amount of grease may not be a bad thing in my book. Whilst it may not always lubricate like it swimming it a batch of oil it will help to reduce friction and heat which is in effect reducing wear - but nothing lasts for ever we can only help to maintain and reduce wear & tear on our guns As I said use any $hit sparingly, and apply a good coat of common sense when doing this kind of stuff They saying "if it ain't broke don't try to fix it" comes to mind but no maintenance is not a good idea either I do feel silicone in barrel and applied with cue-tip - not dripping with silicone but slightly damp and rod carefully down barrel will help clean and reduce a bit of drag - but I am not going to run scientific tests just yet but going on my gut feeling and what experiences I have found Rubber - NO like I said Hop-up - not needed yet buy "maybe" a bit of WD40 carefully perhaps if gears are sticking - ffs go easy though Like I said rodding barrel may also be pushing some dirt back down barrel but you do get some dirt out so it may help I think - but this quick cleaning we should perhaps do very often is never the same as a total strip-down & clean, grease rebuild etc..... But as long as you go easy and sparingly use any stuff in the appropriate place in modest amounts it should help keep you gun working effeciently for longer without a strip down Sorry for ramblings but trying to demonstrate why and how I have my beliefs or methods or based my findings on

Not gonna get into another row or debate on this subject I said in beginning I am still a noob to some airsoft stuff but do have a number of years of wisdom I have aquired along the way I wasn't using oil as most people preception but pure silicone liquid lightly on a que-tip I use it at work and know how it does greatly reduce drag This is still in effect an oil but is used a polishing agent which mildly cleans dirt & dust Alchohol or Isopropyl is a cleaner - but that is all it is and evaporates but will not reduce drag except for removing any dirt that may cause extra drag - it will not do much else Also on the subject of cleaning - most of this I am taking as a quick light regular clean In effect without stripping down the top - just giving a quick squirt or rodding a cloth down barrel could be in effect just pushing some crap back into barrel rather than proper removal of it if gun was dismantled then you could clean barrel properly one side to other to ensure all dirt is properly removed and barrel cleaned as best as possible But my feeling is in many cases we are just doing a little bit of quick regular maintenence to get the majority of gunk that may in there and also perhaps keep hop-up gears turning so it remains adjustable when required Bucking or rubber - leave alone unless gun is really playing up - in which case then an overhaul And like I said - different chemicals for different purposes and used sparingly too if required OK lets just forget this subject - we have numerous difference of opinions.... funny I said that as well ask 10 people etc...... Lets agree to disagree slightly then and call it a day

So WD40 eats plastic ??? really - I didn't think it was corrosive as well like I said I haven't bothered with hop-up, but said use sparingly yup got blunt needles for refilling ink carts or CISS systems on printers but then could always use the tube/straw that comes with WD40 or the other half of the cue-tip to apply a few drops on gears of hop-up some products may be better than others and some should not be used for certain areas but then letting certain parts run dry as bone is not good gun maintenance either suppose if you ask 10 people what and where to use stuff you will get at least 5 different answers

Difference of opinion again...... Already said Silicone & WD40 are not same but are slightly similar but used for different things WD40 has been silicone free since first invented - says on tin it is NOT a lubricant but oddly states in a few examples of use: Stops squeaks Penetrates and LUBRICATES hinges castors springs..... Frees sticky mechanisms: Un-jams and LUBRICATES door locks, zippers, sewing machines AK47's OK I put the AK47 bit in - but that is what it says on the tin it is designed to help free seized rusted bolts etc but in its own way helps to ease and lubricate slightly it is not a high melting point oil or grease but does HELP to keep things moving Hop-up - already said I haven't used stuff on mine yet, but if your hop-up adjustment is a bit stiff then I reckon a tiny amount of WD40 won't be a bad idea to free it up and assist it keep any lube away from rubber bucking - don't want it slipping out end of barrel