Rogerborg

With respect, that's an automated stock system and a fortuitous delivery. I tend to judge retailers on how they respond when things go wrong, because that's when it will really matter.

Looks like I was lucky to get an order through from them in mid April. Such a shame, I hope it works out for everyone.

BBC Watchdog? I'd be surprised if an organisation of pinko hoodie huggers had anything to say about realistic imitation firearms except to REEEEEE! in horror at discovering that they are available, and try to get the whole industry shut down.

You'll probably want to cite Fraud Act 2006 S2 Fraud by false representation rather than CRA 2015 if you're going to accuse them of being criminals. CRA enumerates your tort rights, it doesn't create new criminal offences (except for obstructing an enforcement action or purporting to be an enforcer). On that, I've invited justbbguns to exercise their right of reply in this thread. Mostly for the lulz.

Mmm, I have seen this issue of returned stock being sold as new levelled against several of the "fooBB.com" merchants. Best of luck. What criminal offence have they committed?

It's not so much a problem with stock imagery, it's that he's asking for money now in return for something that he doesn't have and which may not even exist. That's the kind of shenanigans that gets marketplaces a bad name, and if it were up to me, I'd delete the ad, ban him, block his IP, and shag his sister for good measure. Then send him pictures.

Well, ordered Monday morning, delivered 2pm Friday afternoon, can't really fault that.

http://i.imgur.com/phQ2es0.png DPD tend to be too efficient. I've had DPD Darren pull up outside my house and sit in his van while I'm playing with myself in the garage. When I went to ask him to handle my package, he got all sheepish and said he couldn't give it to me yet as he was early. But... you're here... I'm right here... Yeah, but Friend Computer won't accept the signature until... 3... 2... 1... OK, now you can have it. ... aaaand I've just realised that I checked "garage" on my UPS delivery, but I locked the garage door this morning after I'd got my bike out from sheer ingrained habit. Despite repeating "Don't lock the garage door tomorrow. Don't lock the garage door tomorrow. Don't lock the..." to myself all last night. So, OK, ineptitude, fair cop.

Can't be done, homes. Check out this memepic:

Huh, I didn't even know you could do that. I only see options for where they can abandon it at my house.

Please, please tell me that you're wearing the tail. 🐇

Shows what I know. Ordered yesterday, dispatched today, UPS plan to mis-deliver it on Friday. Don't I look silly. Lulz though, they're STILL showing the messed up address from my first order, despite having sorted that out last time. I might have to create a new account in order to fix that.

I'm surprised this hasn't been updated for a while. I'm on order number 2. The first one, well, Polish addresses ain't like UK addresses. Be very sure that your address appears as you want it before doing the order. In particular, don't try to get clever with the flat number part - about 8 characters of it just gets appended to the end of the address line, so don't try and use it for your UKARA. It took a few days of back-and-forth to get that sorted, but they were pretty responsive and it all came good in the end. At that, I don't think their dispatch is the quickest, so plan on a few days to get the order out, then 3+ for delivery, so you're not likely to get it the same week that you order. At a quick (order number difference / date difference) calculation on my 2 orders, they're processing in excess of 300 orders per day so might get swamped at times. Other things to be aware of is that they use the cower of shunts at UPS, who will do everything possible to misdirect, misdeliver and flat out lie to you about your package. In particular, you can probably forget having any gun order delivered to one of their "Access Points" which tend to be hole-in-the-wall shops who will simply refuse it as it's too big for their shoebox sized storage. GunFire's "GLS" courier use ParcelForce once it hits the UK, who are slightly less awful than UPS. All that said, dat stock, dem prices. Once you've amortised the postage charges, it's hard to argue with the value proposition.

+1, I guess. I just ordered some bits, they came next day, 1st class as promised, and very well packaged. One of the few sites I've actually bookmarked and will definitely be using again.

£85 gun + "£200 on upgrades" = £300 gun? Airsoftarithmetic.

Which act, which section?

IIRC (and I may not), that technically only applies to airguns. Which is darn silly, but our projectile laws are a complete mess. Your first hurdle is getting your parents onboard. After that, I'd let them handle talking to the neighbours. Best of luck.

Aaaaah, realisation dawns. Sorry, I'd read the "relatively low FPS" part in isolation, but it's in combination with the BB mass. And I see the point that if you chrono piston and gas guns with 0.2s and get the same FPS, then put a heavier BB in, the gas gun can continue to impart more energy as it travels down the barrel, while the piston gun runs out of puff. Which makes always chronoing with 0.2 the issue. But if a site insists on doing it, then what other choice do you have but to tune for 0.2g and 500fps (or whatever the site limit is). Your targets will get hit harder, but that's not exactly your fault. But if they limit by energy and chrono with the BBs that you're actually intending to use, that opens a whole other can of trust-worms, plus they'd have to keep adjusting the chrono, or looking up mass x FPS to energy on a quick reference. I guess there's no perfect solution to that, although on balance I think I'd prefer sites to chrono based on energy rather than with 0.2s. Aside, when's the last time you saw anyone using 0.2s, except maybe handed out with rental guns?

With respect, this sounds like magical thinking. Can you run through the physics with me? A BB emerges from the muzzle with two properties: linear velocity (speed, direction) and angular velocity (rate of spin), right? Once it's out of the barrel those are fixed, and the BB doesn't know or care what provided them. At that point, two BBs which have the same mass, vector, and spin will fly in exactly the same way. Can we agree on that? I get that the puff imparted by a gas gun might be delivered differently from a piston, but how does what happened inside the barrel alter the reality at the muzzle? FPS is FPS. The only other variable is spin. If the hop up in a piston gun can impart the same spin as the hop up in a gas gun, to a BB that emerges with the same speed, what will make those BBs fly any differently? This is a genuine question, I keep seeing these aphorisms repeated, but I can't fathom why.

There's only three things happening to the BB: puff, spin, point. Improving two out of three sounds great, but why not go crazy and start by increasing the puff, then fitting a hop and barrel to match.

I think I'd be requesting that they take a credit card payment for the amount shown on screen, or my money would be going elsewhere. Hope you get it figured out and sorted.

But it wouldn't stop a real bullet. Having just had the lens shot out of my camera for the 2nd time in a row, I'm currently looking for protection solutions. Of course, it won't look like a real Drift Stealth 2 then.

"Hit! HIT! HIIIIIT!"

How high is that rail riser under the holo sight? 1"? Do you find it makes it easier to use the sight with (I assume) face protection on? Actually, looking closer, is that two layers of risers?

Are we using the same definition of inches, yards, and grouping?