wow thanks for all the advise from everyone. im still abit lost with what to buy. basically im looking for a sniper i wont have to upgrade and one that shoots reasonably accuratly at say 120ft because that is around the length of where ill be shooting , if that is possible for a sniper out of box im looking to spend between 120-250 on a gun out of the box. also would still pref it to look modern like the WELL MB4411 or the ASG AW 338. again thanks for the help