Shortenhauzen

Still getting Moist at the ripe old age of 50 eah Shortenhauzen? I thought that was the age you started crisping up and bits start to fall off?!!!

Well i will be 50 in early Feb next year so looks like i will be getting combined pressies xmas / Birthday so i have been asked if i would like a rifle !!!
 
I also shoot air rifles in a pest control / hobby type way aswell so do i go Air Rifle or Air Soft Hhhhhhhmmmmm .
 
Got 3 Air Rifles and only 2 Air soft rifles so to even things up i am thinking of asking for ICS CXP APE as the Tan & Black makes me a little moist , You're only 50 once and i believe myself to be lucky i have reached this age so far still in one piece !!!
 
So yeah think i will go Air soft

Well i will be 50 in early Feb next year so looks like i will be getting combined pressies xmas / Birthday so i have been asked if i would like a rifle !!!
 
I also shoot air rifles in a pest control / hobby type way aswell so do i go Air Rifle or Air Soft Hhhhhhhmmmmm .
 
Got 3 Air Rifles and only 2 Air soft rifles so to even things up i am thinking of asking for ICS CXP APE as the Tan & Black makes me a little moist , You're only 50 once and i believe myself to be lucky i have reached this age so far still in one piece !!!
 
So yeah think i will go Air soft

Picked this up locally and today changed the battery connection to deans so i can try it with the lipo's i have for my other M4.
 
All works !!! So the JG M4 S -System for £80 will make a good back up / stand by rifle . Still needs a bit of tlc but so far so good, The Aimpoint works aswell !!
 

 

Picked this up locally and today changed the battery connection to deans so i can try it with the lipo's i have for my other M4.
 
All works !!! So the JG M4 S -System for £80 will make a good back up / stand by rifle . Still needs a bit of tlc but so far so good, The Aimpoint works aswell !!
 

 

Picked this up locally and today changed the battery connection to deans so i can try it with the lipo's i have for my other M4.
 
All works !!! So the JG M4 S -System for £80 will make a good back up / stand by rifle . Still needs a bit of tlc but so far so good, The Aimpoint works aswell !!
 

 

Well thanks for the info and comments gents, I went and bought it for £80 .
 
It's in fair condition , Needs a bit of TLC so will give me a little project to play with and learn a bit more about the " workings " of a AEG.

Well thanks for the info and comments gents, I went and bought it for £80 .
 
It's in fair condition , Needs a bit of TLC so will give me a little project to play with and learn a bit more about the " workings " of a AEG.

Very true comments but like I said the kids of today seem to be taught stuff like coding
but less actual hands on practical common sense stuff
 
The woodwork lesson - now they got computer laser cutters to do all fancy stuff for them
Where as if I wanted to that I had to go really careful for yonks by hand
We had to learn how to fit a plug - not that hard but now it all comes fitted
We had to fix our bikes puncture etc - all stuff that I really think helped later on in life
 
Some shops are brilliant but most are not with their customer service...
Majority of shops are now replaced by the bigger chain of shops, they often employ the younger people of today
 
But a classic 'ol school type of shop that has been going for yonks...
The owner is probably still serving behind the counter, has decades of wisdom (sorry kids they don't teach this at uni)
and thoroughly prides himself on his service as well as products he sells
 
I could go on - but places like PC World are a joke to me, kids still wet behind the ears, know jack $hit except what colour that laptop comes in
(soz to any PC World workers - just a very rough generalise of my experiences a while back and haven't been back for ages now)
 
Forums and people trying to do their homework is very very important - at least "try" to search/research some stuff
but many many people prefer to be spoon fed or ar$e wiped for them but by that they gain very little
they are just in effect buying what they are told to buy

Having come into Airsofting recently and rapidly approaching 50 years of age !!! Forums like this are a godsend for info etc. I am also a keen hunter using Air Rifles and again the forums i belong to are on the whole excellent place for info and help. My location also inhibits me visiting shops as on the IOW we have one gun shop and that's it . We also have just the one Skirmish site which carries various spares etc. and has been very helpful to me in the answering of my noob questions . It's also the only place i get to see and feel other Rifles ( )
 
With regard to youngsters , Yes they are spoilt imho. I know my nephew seems to have very little understanding of what stuff is worth. He would quite often leave any of the following hanging around and then start pestering his parents with " where is my ipod/ipad/laptop/ " Hundreds of pounds worth of stuff he would leave somewhere and not be bothered about it. He would always be asking for stuff ( i am sure he is not unique in this !! ) with the argument " my mate has it so why can't i ? "
 
As for youngsters asking for help on forums , I would think / hope that's the best route for them to take in the hope they get the right advice in which to make an informed decision on what to purchase. Would also be good if they would direct the parents to the same forum so they could ask questions too ? and see just what little johnny or Jane for that matter are getting in to !!
 
Hope that all makes sense !!

Having come into Airsofting recently and rapidly approaching 50 years of age !!! Forums like this are a godsend for info etc. I am also a keen hunter using Air Rifles and again the forums i belong to are on the whole excellent place for info and help. My location also inhibits me visiting shops as on the IOW we have one gun shop and that's it . We also have just the one Skirmish site which carries various spares etc. and has been very helpful to me in the answering of my noob questions . It's also the only place i get to see and feel other Rifles ( )
 
With regard to youngsters , Yes they are spoilt imho. I know my nephew seems to have very little understanding of what stuff is worth. He would quite often leave any of the following hanging around and then start pestering his parents with " where is my ipod/ipad/laptop/ " Hundreds of pounds worth of stuff he would leave somewhere and not be bothered about it. He would always be asking for stuff ( i am sure he is not unique in this !! ) with the argument " my mate has it so why can't i ? "
 
As for youngsters asking for help on forums , I would think / hope that's the best route for them to take in the hope they get the right advice in which to make an informed decision on what to purchase. Would also be good if they would direct the parents to the same forum so they could ask questions too ? and see just what little johnny or Jane for that matter are getting in to !!
 
Hope that all makes sense !!

I'd expect grown ups playing at soldiers with toy guns like usual airsoft, only taking it much more seriously.

From Taiwangun.com ( good service again ) KJW Glock23 with a spare mag for £80 delivered
 

 

 

From Taiwangun.com ( good service again ) KJW Glock23 with a spare mag for £80 delivered
 

 

 

The Owen was used in jungle fighting. The Austen (Australian version of the sten) was found to snag on vegetation a lot more.
The shape does seem wrong until you hold the Owen, then it becomes clear that it is actually genius. All the weight is at the rear of the gun so unlike the Sten or Thompson, once you have the stock to your shoulder you can do other stuff with your left hand (Vietnam photo's of Australians indicate that radio operators tended to use the Owen). A side mounted magazine would put the gun off balance and require you to hold it with 2 hands. The magazine really doesn't affect your field of view much, as when you aim down the right hand side of the gun it is central to both eyes.
If you hold up 2 fingers together at arms length directly in front of you, you can see everything behind them (as long as its a meter or more away), this is about the same width and position as the mag on an Owen.

From Taiwangun.com ( good service again ) KJW Glock23 with a spare mag for £80 delivered
 

 

 

Hi guys and gals
 
just thought I'd share this with you all. So this weekend I installed in my A&K SVD a G hop modification. Its basically the same as your standard R Hop but using an old hop bucking to create the patch.
 
Well I can say I'm impressed. It hasn't increased my range that much but my accuracy has gone through the roof. I am hitting consistently a coke can sized target at 40m every single time. My overall effective range for a man size target with my SVD is approx 70-80m
 
here is the link that I followed on youtube.
 

I have got tickets for The Mall one @ Reading and really looking forward to it. Going with my son-in-law elect. Does look good and just need to pick a date now

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It really depends how far you want to go, but for a DMR you need to achieve 3 things: 1) consistency of power, 2) range, 3) accuracy.
 
Consistency because to get the most range you can, you need to push your FPS to close to your site's limit, so you need to ensure that when you chrono you don't have every 3rd shot going over the limit, or whatever. Plus consistency guarantees accuracy in elevation, which is particularly important when you are firing at crouching targets closer than your sight is zeroed for (because you need to know exactly how much to aim down or the BB will sail over your target's head) and also at whatever becomes extreme range for your gun, where hits become a bit doubtful anyway, but people often stand out of cover assuming they are out of range - you have to get 'em with 1 shot, because if you miss they will take cover and you'll not get a hit on half a head.
 
Range and accuracy speak for themselves, but there are a few things worth noting - ultimately both range and accuracy are a function of how stable the backspin of the BB is in flight, because if the BB yaws wildly then even with a lot of power behind it the lift available from backspin is squandered by not acting directly against gravity, but conversely if the backspin is very stable then more FPS will translate into even more range than it does from a worse set up with a stiffer spring. So let's assume a perfect hop unit, as the BB travels down the barrel the spin around a perfectly horizontal axis can only get knocked off axis, it can't get improved, and how much imperfection is introduced is down to how well polished the interior surface of the inner barrel is - thus the better the barrel you can afford, the better results you will get from your hop.
 
PDI is the Rolls Royce, or their Raven next best, from x-fire.org - they often have free postage events which will save you about 1600 Yen, but Prometheus also have a good reputation. Madbull Black Python are initially probably better than the likes of Lonex and Deep Fire stainless steel, but you will also need to keep the inside very clean and the Madbull has a surface coating which is not as resilient as steel. I've had good results from a Guarder chromed brass 6.02mm barrel too, but this is in an AKS-74U and I don't clean it that often... still chrome is very hard, so gentle cleaning ought not to damage the layer of it. I also have a chromed 6.03x455mm Falcon barrel and that is pretty impressive too, although the rubber it comes with struggles to lift 0.25g BB's a little so I get better range from 0.2's, which makes accuracy at extreme range suffer.
 
To get max stability in applied spin you need either a rubber with a split bump, such as a stock CYMA, a PDI W-hold, or a Falcon Dual Point (see above); or a shaped nub such as a RATech hourglass shaped hop cushion (also available from ASPUK), Element H-nub (fleabay), or Madbull Fishbone Spacer (in that order of effectiveness); you can't combine split bump and shaped nub, it's one or the other.
 
You also want a sticky rubber, because although the softer the rubber the faster it will wear out, especially at higher FPS, the less the rubber is applied to the BB to get the same amount of backspin, the less FPS is lost to its breaking effect, which makes power consistency less temperature dependent. Also it is likely that the harder the BB is squeezed through the hop unit, the more any tiny imperfections in the design will translate into off axis spin. Prometheus Purple (soft) is my fav so far, but Maple Leaf 60 degree has a good rep also.
 
When you fit a TBB you will instantly get a boost in FPS because less air will escape around the BB in the barrel, so you may well have to change spring, but before that you can do other things to maximise compression, which also increase consistency, and will affect your choice of spring. If you fit the hop rubber so that the bump fits as close to the rear of the barrel as you can get it, the lips of the rubber will make better contact with the air seal nozzle. If you then wrap a few turns of PTFE tape around the forward end of the rubber, so it doesn't cover the bump/barrel window end and use some grease on the outside to make this fatter assembly slide into the hop chamber, you will minimise the amount of air which can escape between the rubber and barrel.
 
Make sure that your air seal nozzle has an O-ring inside it at the base. There are some with 2 O-rings but i'm not convinced they do actually do anything which a smear of grease around the base of the cylinder head spout wouldn't do better. This grease should be applied carefully so that there is enough to make a good seal against the nozzle O-ring but not enough so that it is forward enough to get blasted down the barrel off the interior of the nozzle (check the travel of your tappet plate to determine how far up the cylinder head spout the grease can go). SHS make good aluminium air seal nozzles with O-rings (Bullseye Country Sport).
 
If you replace your piston head with a Double O-Ring design you will get 20-30 more FPS from your spring and more consistency. To get maximum benefit also thoroughly grease it and the inside of the cylinder with CT-2 Teflon grease (fleabay). Magic Box make the piston head, but they seem to be rare - there are other manufacturers such as Dream Army (khmountain_uk fleabay). Also coat the rails of the piston and spring in CT-2 so that their travel is consistent. A shiny steel spring guide may also help consistency and it can't hurt (SHS - Bullseye CS).
 
Lastly choose your spring. Predicting what power you need is something of a black art, because the more powerful the compression inside the cylinder, the more any failures of air seal will affect power (and this is not necessarily so simple as more pressure = more leaks because there will be a point at which each component gives way and that will be affected by temperature and humidity, thus it is best to try to achieve whatever FPS is your target with the least powerful spring and best compression, hence O-rings, Teflon grease and the tightest TBB you feel comfortable with for your ammo / or choose your ammo to work with the best 6.01mm TBB you can afford). Guarder springs have a good rep for consistency over time, but SHS are also good. Element springs are not as hard wearing over time, but they do make many half sizes, like M115 rather than 110 or 120 which is the usual convention for manufacturers.
 
Obviously you will have the spring the gun came with, so if you chrono your set up with that, you will know how much more or less you need. 10 on the spring scale is meant to be 10m/s or approx 30FPS, but bear in mind that those figures are based on averagely decent compression with normal diameter barrels. The longer a TBB is, the more extra FPS you will get from any given spring power increase and also, the better compression, the more that will make the TBB increase power. So basically if you followed all my advice above and are chronoing at say 450FPS and your site limit for semi-auto locked DMR's is 420, then dropping spring power by 10 is not likely to be enough, you would be better to drop by 15. If this then proves a smidge too low, you could use something like a stack of washers slotted over the spring guide to pre-tension the spring a little - this will give a small boost in power. You could also clip a few turns off a spring of 10 less power, but this can be dodgy because the spring needs to be under enough tension when as fully extended as it gets to prevent the piston bouncing off the cylinder head and causing problems with your sector gear engaging it. If you did do that, be sure to bend the end to make it as flat as possible, like the end as supplied, otherwise the power will be off axis making the spring rub against the spring guide and inside of the piston.
 
Hope that helps

Good to hear you're really enjoying it. Welcome to the forum mate

Welcome to the forum.

cooked rabbit = yummy glad your enjoying the sport welcome to the forums

Welcome along! We tend to be a nice enough bunch around here, and at most sotes around the place too!

Welcome to the forum