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Looking good, James.

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Is that the Semapo M81's mate? looks awesome

 

yeah, really impressed by them, side by side with my cryes it's pretty hard to pick out many significant differences in quality. Fabric isn't quite as robust as the real deal but they were about £200 cheaper than the real thing!

 

Oh, and don't tumble dry them... I'm glad mine were a little bit bigger than I needed to begin with :)

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Looking good JC! Awesome load out mate!

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VFG and hold the M4 by the magwell.... booo... hissssssssssssssss!

meh. it's like dropbars on a bike, you wont go wind tunnel all the time, but it gives you options.

 

personally I usually find myself switching depending on what's more comfy at that instant. plus its ridiculous how many times the vg have prevented me from getting hit :P (when gun hits doesn't count)

 

 

imho :)

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What plate carrier is that you're wearing Piecre09?

LBT 6094A MC

Onerios Valley Scorpion W2 PAP

HSGI MC single taco x 3

Tactical Tailor Double M4 pouch x2 MC

Tactical Tailor 2x203 pouch MC

TMC IFAK MC

Tactical Tailor Hydro

 

Links to the main stuff!

 

Looking good Pierce, where were the pics taken? Looks a bit like the sandpit?

 

Pics were taken at ACE airsoft field at the Pro Gun Club in Boulder City, Nevada. It's about 20 minutes south of Las Vegas. The background shows the mountains that surround LV and you can see why the US military uses the area between LV and California as training for Afghanistan and Iraq!

 

VFG and hold the M4 by the magwell.... booo... hissssssssssssssss!

 

I even have the same habit with real steel! I miss my AFG but even then i didn't use it all that much. I like to feel 'tucked in' when in a firing position with arms tight into my body. Couple of team mates are firearms instructors and they aren't happy with my firing stances!

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Some cool loudout pics there, however, wearing all that jungle/desert camo whilst creeping past brickwork and whitewashed walls is rather self defeating. It actually makes you stand out even more. If it was me and I was going to go there often, I'd think about getting some urban patterned stuff.

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Some cool loudout pics there, however, wearing all that jungle/desert camo whilst creeping past brickwork and whitewashed walls is rather self defeating. It actually makes you stand out even more. If it was me and I was going to go there often, I'd think about getting some urban patterned stuff.

 

Game uniform requirements for my team was to wear woodland camouflage. Urban camo patterns are beyond useless either way, there's no reliable way to conceal yourself when your backdrop is bricks and white painted walls.

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Prepping my Real(Christmas)Tree Loadout ready for sundays Xmas game expect pictures!

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Prepping my Real(Christmas)Tree Loadout ready for sundays Xmas game expect pictures!

pretty standard in Swedish army

 

cant find the pic I want :(

 

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Game uniform requirements for my team was to wear woodland camouflage. Urban camo patterns are beyond useless either way, there's no reliable way to conceal yourself when your backdrop is bricks and white painted walls.

 

Fair one, urban camo uniforms are pretty much Operation Broken Pencil! totally pointless! The best cam is your field craft and personal skills, especially in an urban/CQB environment, cover from view and cover from fire, use of shadows etc.

We did use to employ an urban cam on AVs in Berlin, a block pattern of black/white/grey, but thankfully that never made it on to clothing!!

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Game uniform requirements for my team was to wear woodland camouflage. Urban camo patterns are beyond useless either way, there's no reliable way to conceal yourself when your backdrop is bricks and white painted walls.

 

Fair enough if it was a requirement to wear a certain pattern, and obviously in that case it aids with recognition between friend and foe, which is of course one of the other purposes of specific camp patterns.

 

Having said that, I'm sure most of us are aware that camouflage is not merely about attempting complete concealment, its other purpose is to break up outlines in order to make rapid recognition and range finding more difficult for your enemy even when they do spot you, which it does through the function of not appearing as a recognisable shape for your enemy to process mentally when his eyes make saccade sweeps. There's little doubt that any sort of foliage pattern isn't going to do a great job of that against urban backdrops, since the tonal ranges are so different, urban camouflage will make that mental recognition process from a saccade sweep slower for an enemy, which is why such patterns are developed, although I'm inclined to think something like Finnish Snow Pattern might arguably do as well in an urban environment.

 

It's interesting to note that few militaries have actually officially adopted any urban camouflage patterns, whereas they do get used a lot by Military SF and SWAT units quite regularly, since they have found them to be more effective when deployed to urban areas. I suppose this is a case of horses for courses and also a testament to the notion that that Military Intelligence is indeed sometimes a contradiction in terms in the light of that evidence. Those of us who were around in the Seventies will doubtless recall how ridiculous and indeed scandalous it was that British troops had to patrol around the streets of Belfast wearing woodland camouflage patterns, which made them stick out like a sore thumb, whilst carrying FNs and SLRs suitable for engaging targets a long ranges, as opposed to something more suited to engaging a target across the street from them, as was likely to be the case. Meaning neither the troop's clothing nor his weapon was suited to the task at hand. Some things never change of course, more recently during the 1991 Gulf War, the first troops out to the region were being sent out with green woodland pattern battledress whilst riding vehicles still painted in olive drab patterns designed for combat on the plains of Germany during the Cold War. So once again the old saying about the British Army being 'the best trained and the worst equipped' was true.

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It's interesting to note that few militaries have actually officially adopted any urban camouflage patterns, whereas they do get used a lot by Military SF and SWAT units quite regularly, since they have found them to be more effective when deployed to urban areas. I suppose this is a case of horses for courses and also a testament to the notion that that Military Intelligence is indeed sometimes a contradiction in terms in the light of that evidence. Those of us who were around in the Seventies will doubtless recall how ridiculous and indeed scandalous it was that British troops had to patrol around the streets of Belfast wearing woodland camouflage patterns, which made them stick out like a sore thumb, whilst carrying FNs and SLRs suitable for engaging targets a long ranges, as opposed to something more suited to engaging a target across the street from them, as was likely to be the case. Meaning neither the troop's clothing nor his weapon was suited to the task at hand. Some things never change of course, more recently during the 1991 Gulf War, the first troops out to the region were being sent out with green woodland pattern battledress whilst riding vehicles still painted in olive drab patterns designed for combat on the plains of Germany during the Cold War. So once again the old saying about the British Army being 'the best trained and the worst equipped' was true.

 

You're right about the suitability of the SLR for close quarters work but ISTR that they also had access to the Stirling SMG at the time if need be. Also - worth remembering that sometimes a uniform is NOT for concealment but for a show of force. The British patrols in NI weren't always looking to be concealed they needed to be seen as a deterrent. We had plenty of undercover types in plain clothes for concealment when the situation required (the best way to blend in for an urban environment is just jeans and a jacket after all). Some US police forces have adopted ATACS LE for the same reason, not because it hides them in an urban environment (let's face it - anyone wearing a dark uniform, tac vest and ballistic helmet is going to stick out in a shopping mall) but to look imposing and be a show of force.

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True, that almost certainly was the intent of the British Government in deploying troops to Northern Ireland, but most people I know who actually had to walk those streets dressed like that would have preferred to be hidden! Ironically enough, everyone i know who served in NI, almost to a man, says the average person was great with them and the last thing they wanted to do was to be throwing their weight around. Having been personally threatened by the IRA back in the Seventies (long story, and water under the bridge in these more peaceful times, so I won't bore people with it), I can well understand the desire of guys with their boots on the ground to be hidden as best they can. :)

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True, that almost certainly was the intent of the British Government in deploying troops to Northern Ireland, but most people I know who actually had to walk those streets dressed like that would have preferred to be hidden! Ironically enough, everyone i know who served in NI, almost to a man, says the average person was great with them and the last thing they wanted to do was to be throwing their weight around. Having been personally threatened by the IRA back in the Seventies (long story, and ancient history, so I won't bore people with it), I can well understand the desire of guys with their boots on the ground to be hidden as best they can. :)

 

Oh I don't doubt that for a second, but then there is a well documented gulf between the operational requirements of a government and the individual desire of the rank and file infantryman! Having followed an armoured patrol through Coleraine as recently as the 90's having an SA80 pointed straight at me, nobody could accuse them of trying to hide!

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Yeah, as you say, sometimes a show of force might not be a bad thing. If you ever go to Galway during the races (which you should, cos it's a great time, even if you don't like horse racing), you'll see the money being delivered to the town's bookies in an armoured truck (apparently it's carrying several million quid), and that thing has soldiers with rifles walking in front of it as it drives into the town, and that's Southern Ireland!

 

Ireland's a great country, I love it, but they're as mad as a box of frogs, not as bonkers as they are in Finland (which is also a great country), but pretty close ^_^

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My Soviet Paratrooper loadout:

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KIT LIST:

Berezka bandana

Customised ESS Advancer V12 (mesh replacement lenses) boooo hissssssssssss!

Berezka KZS 2 piece suit

VDV Telnyashka (striped vest)

RD-54 (backpack & harness)

Soviet prototype pig's bladder hydration system ;)

Faux leather Soviet soldiers' belt

VDV 4 cell AK mag case (carrying 4 plum AK-74 midcaps + 1 more in gun)

2 cell + pocket 1st aid pouch (holding Thunder B CO2 grenade, smoke bomb, Cook's Matches striker & spare shotgun primers)

Customised GP-7 respirator bag (dump pouch)

Leather Pistolet Makarova holster

Soviet prototype yak hair seat pad ;)

Warsaw Pact cold weather liner pants & braces

Soviet prototype bakelite kneepads ;) (Hatch Centurion under KZS kecks)

German para boots (smuggled across the Berlin Wall)

Morena my modified CYMA CM.048 AK-74

Umarex Makarov with PPS refillable bulb approx 355FPS when filled with CO2 only, which is fine at Skirmish (368FPS hard limit without MED)

Ohshiboom impact BFG w/ shotgun primer adapter (in 1 cell of RD-54 grenade pouch / lighter and sweeties in other cell)

Bunch of MK5 pyros in 1 cell of RD-54's 2 cell AK mag pouch (couldn't get NH_Shooter's MK5 holders to look right on this rig, so just used the striker on a bit of velcro around the left RD-54 shoulder strap)

CYMA AK-74 flash mag hicap in the other cell of the RD-54's mag pouch

Bubblewrap filling the side pockets of the RD-54 to bulk it out.

Unknown make modified mesh 1/2 face mask.

Modified knock off Oakley gloves.

 

This loadout really needs a rubber AK-74 bayonet. A rubber spade would be even better, but this RD-54 does not have the upside down spade pouch on the back, although I expect I could sew one of the normal Soviet spade covers onto it.

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Modified KH_Mountain elbow pads

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Atacs FG loadout and first day running my SMP

 

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The perspective makes you look like a dawf at first glance. :P

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The perspective makes you look like a dawf at first glance. :P

Makes the guy behind actually standing up look even more dwarvish :)

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